Maybe if all company data was in git(hub) it could help check who adds a company, and from which source come the jobs https://github.com/joblisttoday/data
Why in the world would GitHub be a good solution for that? Most jobs are not software jobs.
A fake job offer gone wrong
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Re: A fake job offer gone wrong
#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've worked at corporate jobs and smaller companies, and frankly if a large company said "here's a list of our authorised resellers, and a signing bonus paid by cheque, please use it to buy equipment as it's faster than going through procurement" I would 100% believe them as at every job I've ever had (before I got a company card) it was faster and easier to just buy and expense. I genuinely wouldn't bat an eyelid un…
I would certainly expect it to be faster than procurement, but not living in the US the concept of receiving a Cheque in the 21st century would raise all forms of red flags. If they deposited the cash directly into my account via a BACS payment, same as my salary, that would be far more believable. That said, $10k in office expenses for someone starting on $40k a year ($20/hr training) would also raise a flag. Edit:…
>Do people really get paid by checks in the US?
If they don't have a bank account or refuse direct deposit or direct deposit isn't set up yet.
Or if the employer is treating them as an independent contractor, maybe.
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#323Do you trust any work related email sent to you using a gmail account? Cause I absolutely don't. I work in a very very tiny startup and even this guy sent me the acceptance mail through his company site.
That was the biggest flag to me. Nobody in any kind of business uses @gmail.com. Maybe some Etsy person selling out of their extra bedroom, but that's it. Domain names and email hosting is too cheap to use gmail for business. Even if it was a legit business, I'd stay away if they couldn't be bothered to do that minimum.
It is quite common among US businesses that are not large enough to afford a dedicated IT department and do not want to spend too much on a MSP. Not the kind of company that would be offering this kind of job, for sure.
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#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
If by "criminally culpable" you mean "awarded over a million dollars", then that is exactly what happened. > Summers also sued McDonald's and was awarded $1 million in punitive damages and $100,000 in compensatory damages.
yes, awarded a million dollars for being fucking stupid.
And apparently completely devoid of any idea of human decency, yes
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#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What's worse is most people don't even consider the risk to calling in an order from a local restaurant for delivery (chinese, for example). if you review your monthly statement, the "risk" is the possible inconvenience of having your card replaced. I don't let it stop me from ordering my favorite takeout, but you do you.
yeah... because ... you know, they'll only charge once in a first month and do nothing else.
I honestly don't understand your threat model here. from the post I originally replied to, it's clear that you already understand that you can easily reverse unauthorized charges to a credit card. if you're already reviewing your monthly statements (which you really should be, as part of sane budgeting), this is basically a non-issue. you tell your cc issuer you suspect someone has stolen your credit card info, they cancel the card, and you can probably even get them to ship you a new one overnight. it's unlikely things even get to this stage though. card not present with no cvv is already the most highly scrutinized type of cc transaction by the processor.
I guess someone could probably treat themselves to their own monthly takeout order without me noticing for a while, but at least to me, this minuscule risk does not seem worth the mitigations you are taking.
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#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
why why why would you send money to someone who would ask you to send it back. why can't they just convert that money state themselves? i always wonder how people end up for these scams. unless its your very close friend or family, don't launder money. i think this is a life lesson we learn in middle school and grow up to think adults are more trustworthy
Companies sometimes do things that don't make much sense. If you are not familiar with what is and what isn't "normal", it can be hard to tell the difference. For example, when I company I worked for sent me on a business trip, I was supposed to buy the flight ticket using my own money, then bring them then receipt, and then they would pay me the money back. Why couldn't they buy the flight ticket themselves instead?…
At what point were they having you send the money they just sent you back to them, but in a different form? Did your company have you wire to some random bank account? I assume not. These are not the same scenarios at all.
For one thing even if the company never reimbursed you - it wasn’t an outright scam, you did get a flight. The scam scenario you are literally just sending money to a scammer - with the extra flourish of getting a fake check.
What you say about expensing is not unusual and there a number of reasons for it. It does offload the onus of correctly making reservations, putting in KTIN and immigration info on you. And then the big one is that I get all the travel card benefits (points). I even prefer it this way.
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#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess, but autonatlon.com kind of sticks out.
internal-autonation.com is available right now for $10. autonation.inc is also available. I could generate 100 more like this that would fool most of the American population. Tech workers might be smart enough to avoid them, but the average person wouldn't think twice about these. For example imagine getting an email from recruiting@internal-autonation.com. Again, I know a tech worker who actually is likely to have p…
I've received completely legit emails from Chase Bank that used URLs that, on first glance, had to be fake. I followed up using alternate channels and found out that it wasn't a scam just poorly executed "security".
Re: A fake job offer gone wrong
#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Are cheques even used for anything except for fraud anymore? Based on the cheques spelling I guess you're not in the US. Checks are very common here, I write them every month. In theory I could pay my water bill by credit card but their payment portal is so randomly broken that I save a ton of headache by writing a check and dropping it off at their payment box. My office lease only takes checks. Various other rent…
Is "direct debit" not a thing in the US? All of my regular bills in the UK (mortgage, energy, water, internet, insurance, debt, probably some others I'm forgetting) are deducted automatically from my bank account every month. I don't have to think about it all - and there's zero possibility of nuking my credit score by accidentally missing a payment. Having to remember to write a check for each bill every month sound…
Because of the quirks of the US banking system, my personal philosophy is that no one gets to pull money from my accounts. I will push payments for my bills to the various providers.
My payments are still done electronically but I have to go into my bank's BillPay service and direct the amounts and payment dates for each bill. It's a bit more work but it also means far fewer surprises or errors to clean up. I already reconcile my accounts on a weekly basis, so it's only an extra minute or two to set up the payments for the coming week.
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#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
The McDonalds manager story in question: https://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3688563&page=1 Which would be completely unbelievable if there wasn't security footage of the whole thing!
Insane and yet totally believable if you spend any time dealing with franchisees.
What does that mean?
Re: A fake job offer gone wrong
#330Sadly, my daughter got scammed earlier this year. She is a recent college grad from a liberal arts school, and had been working six months doing retail work after graduation. Looking to make use of her degree, she was excited to get a job offer doing remote work as an office coordinator. She has a dog so working from home was a plus, and $25/hr instead of $16/hr doing retail was a big raise. She not only lost $3000 f…
Sorry that happened to her. There's also some mental concept where people already got started or went so far, and subconsciously don't want to believe they've been had, so keep going. I'm sure there's a name for it, I can't be bothered to look up. It's why romance scams are so common, and also why that McDonald's manager undressed that employee, for example. Fascinating, but sad.
I think it's because way too many people don't have firm boundaries. They don't recognize unacceptable behavior and so cannot put a stop to it before they are victimized.
Someone tried to scam me once by taking over the Instagram account of a hotel and baiting me with a discount. That by itself is not a problem, it could be a legit offer. Their intentions became obvious when I randomly got a message with a 2 factor code and they asked me for the number.
Criminals must necessarily violate social rules in order to carry out their crimes. A robber on the street must close the distance against the victim in order to get in attack range. In my case, the unacceptable behavior was asking me about information that was not only secret but also useless to anyone but me. Recognizing these violations of social norms and enforcing firm boundaries is necessary to defend against these people. People who don't understand what a 2 factor code is will not recognize that it is unacceptable behavior for another person to ask for one and will see no problem with revealing the secret.