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Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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For some things, ChatGPT is just better than SO. I have to say I probably won't hit SO for some basic stuff anymore, I'll just ask ChatGPT. And some queries are just not acceptable on SO, but fine for ChatGPT. For example I might wish to ask, "Give me the framework for a basic API written in Python that uses API key authentication. Populate it with several sample methods that return data structures in json." If I ask…

What scare me is, ChatGPT appears to be immensely helpful.

Nobody is nice enough to answer a question like:

"I want to learn Python. Give me 10 code examples of Python."

"Nice. I want see these example codes in C, Java and x86-64 assembly."

ChatGPT doesn't complain, doesn't getting tired and happily answer these ridiculous questions. Yes, it contains the bogus answers but even now, it's acceptably accurate for some usage and if error rate is dropped even more, who could resist using it?

Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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Temporary policy: ChatGPT is banned - https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/421831/temporary-po... > Use of ChatGPT generated text for posts on Stack Overflow is temporarily banned. > This is a temporary policy intended to slow down the influx of answers created with ChatGPT. What the final policy will be regarding the use of this and other similar tools is something that will need to be discussed with Stack Overf…

How do they know whether answers are ChatGPT generated?

Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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Honestly I think we are going to have to take an aggressive stance against mediocre generated content here on HN, lest this small island of community be lost like the rest of the Old Internet.

Gotta love it. Akin to Silicon Valley-ites ensuring their own children don’t have access to the technologies they go into the office to create and propagate every day.

There’s nothing hypocritical about a car mechanic saying cars should not be allowed on the sidewalk.

Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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Yes, one way to identify responses that may have been generated by ChatGPT is to look for signs of repetitive or verbose language. Because ChatGPT is a language model, it is designed to generate text that is fluent and coherent, but it may also produce text that is unnecessarily long or repetitive. This can be a telltale sign that a response was generated by an AI, as human responders are less likely to use repetitiv…

This is fun but it's already starting to NOT be fun.

You are not an AI. Probably.

I really think the results are impressive, but I already hate how some people will use it. And that indeed is not fun.

Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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Logic is about a chain of formal reasoning that is guaranteed to yield a correct result given correct inputs. If you start with some wrong premises, you can easily write a logical post that has incorrect conclusions.

I am aware of the formal definition of logic. If this is all that tpxl meant, then it's an extremely pedantic and useless objection.

My objection invalidates the solution proposed.

Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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Another poster already did the informal version. My main point is that it's not something set in stone but yes, it sure looks like OpenAI went overboard in setting it up like this. They should adjust it.

Maybe they shouldn’t. Nobody should. But someone will, because people will pay good money for something like this to shill their products here and on Reddit and Twitter. The worst part is that it will work for at least a while.

I believe it will always work for a majority of people. Even for political and philosophical arguments.

Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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It seems like there are a few potential negative consequences of using AI-generated answers on Stack Overflow. For one, the quality of the answers may be lower than if they were written by a human. Additionally, if these AI-generated answers become too common, it could potentially lead to a more impersonal and less supportive community on Stack Overflow. Finally, if the AI is able to search the internet and "inbreed"…

OK Computer I could tell that super passive and eager to talk to both sides style a mile off. Fuck that! (<- proof I am not a robot)

Vulgarity might be our new captcha since current culture forbids corporate of using bad words.

Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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This is definitely not going to help combat the "Dead Internet" conspiracy theory https://theswaddle.com/what-the-dead-internet-theory-predict...

Isn’t it this just the first form of that "AI takeover" some are fearing in the distant future? It's accelerating now. AI is taking over the internet. Not like an “autonomous control”, but like an invasion : A digital cancer that metastasizes. Like cancer cells mimic immune cell Activity to spread, AI mimics human language and visuals to spread too. And it may “kill the internet” (hence the “dead internet”)

This is going to be the HeLa problem for future AI. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa#Contamination )

If we contaminate the content that we are training future AIs off of with ChatGPT, then they'll have problems with the value of that information in the future.

I'll also note that if one attempts to purposely contaminate information with ChatGPT to do that "make it worthless to future AI", it also makes it and the tangental or adjacent information worthless to humans too.

Re: Stack Overflow questions are being flooded with answers from ChatGPT

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> what do you propose we do when ChatGPT (or something like it) can create better content than most humans? An AI cannot, by definition, create better HN content. Because HN content is about hearing what people think about a certain topic/thread. Hearing what an AI statistically regurgitates doesn’t satisfy the purpose even if it’s better written. The internet is about people . I may not be friends with everyone on H…

Wow, that's an interesting argument if I ever saw one! Your viewpoint is completely the opposite of mine, let me argue a couple of points: > An AI cannot, by definition, create better HN content. Because HN content is about hearing what people think about a certain topic/thread. Please tell me: for you, what is the difference between hearing what people think, and hearing what a human-level AI thinks? Are you saying…

To skip the end last question, which is the most interesting, I’ll answer by not answering haha.

> What if the AI was more interesting and intellectually stimulating than a human?

What if? It’s not anywhere close to that. GPT is so far from “human level” even if it sounds good. It’s statistic regurgitation, it’s not thought. If it was more intellectual, then I think there’d be a lot more change in the world than HN.

> Please tell me: for you, what is the difference between hearing what people think, and hearing what a human-level AI thinks?

Humans can have original thoughts. AIs that are trained on a human text corpus are by definition finding statistical correlations between preexisting things.

You can say things like “I know it’s unpopular but I like OOP because objects make it easy to assign team boundaries at work”. And the replies can be about real work experiences of real people who understand those trade offs.

An AI can discuss this, sorta, but it’s not real. The AI knows nothing of these trade offs other than inevitably mentioning Java.

> And even in the remaining 1% of cases, aren't they necessarily just functional products of the things they've seen/read/experienced (i.e. the inputs they've received, even if gathered by feedback when interacting with the world)?

This is what I was thinking a lot about. I think the answer is no.

Humans are introspective and reflective. You are based on your experiences, yes, but you don’t just regurgitate statistically likely language. Crucially, before you answer a question you can reflect on the logic of that answer.

> Are you saying a human-level AI, by definition, cannot ever be interesting to you, just because it's an AI, even though it could be like a human in every other way?

Not to be weird, but I wouldn’t discriminate against a human level intelligence because it’s a machine, but a language model like GPT is absolutely not a human level intelligence.

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