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Twitter users jump to Mastodon, but what is it?

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Re: Twitter users jump to Mastodon, but what is it?

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Post by ahallock »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #250
fsdjkflsjfsoij wrote: post #192

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> and his success is mostly throwing money at eager (and smart) engineers Doing that with this level of success in these domains is extremely rare and even more important. In most cases, the investors are far more important than the workers.

Eh. I dislike Elon, BUT being able to efficiently allocate resources and identify an opportunity and/or valuable employee, who is more than just talk is a valuable skill that surprisingly few people have.

Yeah, people have different roles and talents. The face of the company does get most of the praise and fame, but that's true of nearly every organization I can think of.

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Post by intothemild »

comboy wrote: post #288
code_runner wrote: post #132

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I’m always surprised when there are still people acting like Elon isn’t just BEGGING to be hated. I’m still of the opinion he is not doing the work and his success is mostly throwing money at eager (and smart) engineers. That’s a smart thing to do, good call on his part, but it’s almost like he doesn’t know that’s how his companies work. Maybe he is just great at running tech companies or something but acting like th…

> his success is mostly throwing money at eager (and smart) engineers This meme is on fire but I did not expect it here on HN where people can understand what he is talking about. There are many videos like this [1] and interviews (e.g. with Munro regarding Tesla) where the guy shows deep technical knowledge. Besides, try making a startup throwing money and smart engineers. Just money will not even get you the really…

Did you just compare Musk to Ghandi and Ford?

Re: Twitter users jump to Mastodon, but what is it?

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Post by WalterBright »

There's always the NNTP newsgroups. We use them in the D community as the basis for our discussion groups. We're very happy with them.

A modern interface has been put over them:

https://forum.dlang.org/

but still, it's NNTP and any NNTP newsreader can access them.

Re: Twitter users jump to Mastodon, but what is it?

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Post by ceejayoz »

colin_jack wrote: post #299
ceejayoz wrote: post #252

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“They” describes a non-profit, low-resourced set of volunteers. Seeing it coming and being able to do something about it aren’t the same thing.

I dunno, on performance they could just have limited number of registrations to what they can handle. Better that than having potential users getting a bad impression because everything is too slow.

Quite a few of the larger public servers have done exactly that.

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Post by bembo »

xeeeeeeeeeeenu wrote: post #194
miked85 wrote: post #137

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I'm pretty sure no one (including myself) even understands what urbit is.

It's very simple, this summary explains everything: https://twitter.com/urbit/status/1184984759123922945 Kidding aside, I think it's unlikely that a deliberately obfuscated project will conquer the world.

omg that has to be the worst explanation of a piece of software that I've seen in a long while

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Post by slater »

rvz wrote: post #205
gonehome wrote: post #102

Mastodon and federated systems like it will not succeed beyond a tiny niche, will not replace twitter, and don't even solve most of the problems they try to solve. They don't fix the upstream issues that lead to centralization. Incentives mean most users end up centralized on a handful of servers with a worse experience. It's the worst of both worlds. As designed the UX is bad and cannot be fixed because of these iss…

This. They're right you know. > I want a world where people have actual ownership over their computing, but federated system designs like Mastodon will not get us that and we have thirty years of failure to prove it. The press pretending otherwise because they hate Elon and see tech companies as a threat are just embarrassing themselves. This is the media capitalising at the maximum over the emotions of the tech crow…

How is my favorite Mastodon-hater doing, you must've had a bad last few days? ;)

(i kid, i kid...)

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Post by gonehome »

sangnoir wrote: post #319
gonehome wrote: post #285

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Replied here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33496458 Email is an example of a federated system failure.

That's very strange definition of failure: many non-homogenous systems have Pareto distributions. That in itself is not indicative of failure. 30 years ago, AOL may have been most popular email provider, it was displaced by Hotmail, then Yahoo, now GMail. Having different leaders over time is evidence of the resounding success of email federation, those domains still exist and can still send/receive emails universall…

You can’t run your own node and majority of users are on one system - that’s failure to me.

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Post by crazygringo »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #244

So, getting a little meta and just a little frustrated: I am amazed at the continued downward trend of the quality of the commentary on this site in regards to news relating to hacker culture, when topics like this come up. A pointy haired narcissist with a track record of taking credit for other people's work takes over a tech company and fires half of its employees based on a metric of the number of lines of code t…

You and I must be reading different HN's, because I see an awful lot of people anti-layoffs, anti-Copilot, and pro-Mastodon.

So I wonder if you're actually complaining about diversity of thought? Because HN isn't the "hacker culture" you're talking about from the late 80s and 90's. It's got a whole bunch of those people, but also a whole bunch of everything else.

When people comment, why should they be trying to contribute to "hacker culture" at all? Why shouldn't they simply be offering their diverse perspectives?

And criticizing Mastodon is a valid perspective to have. If people are looking to jump ship from Twitter now, it's important to be realistic about whether Mastodon is or isn't "ready for business" both from technical and consumer perspectives. It's counterproductive to only hype up projects and never criticize them.

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Post by VictorPath »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #244

So, getting a little meta and just a little frustrated: I am amazed at the continued downward trend of the quality of the commentary on this site in regards to news relating to hacker culture, when topics like this come up. A pointy haired narcissist with a track record of taking credit for other people's work takes over a tech company and fires half of its employees based on a metric of the number of lines of code t…

> what exactly are you contributing to hacker culture?

This is a board run by an incubator investment firm, so I don't really view it as an outpost of hacker culture.

I have been reading here over the past week here about private Amway rail cars, underperforming CEOs being replaced, notes about Stripe/Twitter layoffs. Most of this is peripheral, or even unrelated, to hacker culture, but I don't really read here for Hacker culture.

I've seen a lot of hacker culture in the past few months, and a lot of innovation, not necessarily here, although there's been references to it here. For what I'm interested in a lot of it has been based around Github recently, but it varies over time.

I don't see the angels, incubators, VCs, startup founders, FAANG business development and product managers, and occassional programmers talking here to have much influence on hacker culture one way or the other. I'm sure a lot of people hacking on stuff have read this board, or even commented. Not all - I know a lot of very good programmers who never even heard of this board.

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cmrdporcupine wrote: post #244

So, getting a little meta and just a little frustrated: I am amazed at the continued downward trend of the quality of the commentary on this site in regards to news relating to hacker culture, when topics like this come up. A pointy haired narcissist with a track record of taking credit for other people's work takes over a tech company and fires half of its employees based on a metric of the number of lines of code t…

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