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Babylon Bee being suspended was one of the dumber things the previous Twitter rules had done. It's a satire site, it's right leaning, nothing in the piece they said was hateful or even an unpopular view. Kanye's ban, he's just a mentally ill person. I don't think he meant "death con" he just didn't know that it's actually "def con." His remarks are still reprehensible. Twitter's whole moderation problem has been it i…

"I hope Trump is never allowed back," Why?

gestures broadly

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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> The Internet would have us believe that civil war is imminent. The person who could arguably be considered the third most powerful politician in the US just had their own broken into and their spouse assaulted in a suspected act of domestic terrorism. I wouldn't say "imminent" but if you don't think the possibility is at least somewhere on the table I would consider that being naive.

American society was far closer to breaking down in 1968 than it is today. Riots in multiple cities, political assassinations, the polarization over the war in Vietnam, violence in the south over segregation and civil rights, crime waves in most large cities, and urban decay that was so bad people don't believe it when they see the photos today...

There's merit in that comparison but there was nothing like an armed group storming the Capitol with a goal of preventing a fair and honest election. What makes the civil war questions more worrisome to me is how bare-knuckle politics has become so accepted by mainstream Republicans: when Nixon's misconduct came out, his party support eventually declined and had he not resigned, most members of his party would almost certainly have voted for impeachment. Today we're seeing the results of a generation of ideological purges where more significant acts have been met instead with near-unanimous agreement to hold the line and the few dissenters have been evicted from the party.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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A bunch of accounts like The Babylon Bee and Ye have been unbanned w/o input from any such committee of diverse viewpoints. I don't have much faith that Musk will not act unilaterally in service of his friends and allies.

Babylon Bee being suspended was one of the dumber things the previous Twitter rules had done. It's a satire site, it's right leaning, nothing in the piece they said was hateful or even an unpopular view. Kanye's ban, he's just a mentally ill person. I don't think he meant "death con" he just didn't know that it's actually "def con." His remarks are still reprehensible. Twitter's whole moderation problem has been it i…

"he's just a mentally ill person"

That has very large influence and is spreading and inspiring hate [1]. Mentally ill or not, he's causing real-world damage.

[1] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/banner-kanye-right-los-...

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post #166

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Let's avoid disinfo. Neither account was banned to begin with. Both accounts were restricted, which could be lifted after the user deletes the offending tweet. It's overwhelmingly likely Musk had nothing to do with either case (and he said so himself). https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/28/technology/kanye-ye-twitt...

Oh come on, that’s like saying someone isn’t being tortured, just temporarily having their pleasure removed until they confess.

It seems you're coming at it from the other side. If it were up to me, I'd remove the "lock" feature that seems too much like a struggle session (as noted in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33371795), and just have tweets be taken down without needing users to admit guilt. I also would oppose banning either Kanye or the Bee.

But if someone is arguing that it was a ban, and that it shows Musk unbanned them and is lying, then that's wrong. I was addressing that argument.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Twitter is not a megaphone. So tired of news sites using that analogy. I can choose what I see on Twitter.

I only follow about 25 people on Twitter, Elon Musk is not one of them. Yet the first tweet in my feed when I just opened up the homepage is Elon Musk said "let the good times roll" 8 hours ago.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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Twitter is not a megaphone. So tired of news sites using that analogy. I can choose what I see on Twitter.

Am I missing something? I guess with a custom browser, but I can’t close the “what’s happening” box and I often see retweets and likes from the people I follow. You can individually turn off retweets but that’s hate-UX, is there a way to do this in bulk? (I already changed the “show me tweets in order” setting or whatever.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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You cannot have the former without the latter.

You quite obviously can. For what idea can you not find a person with Black skin who supports it? You've got Black centre-rightists like me, Far Rightists like Clarence Thomas, Barack Obama in the middle, and quite a range of voices on the Left - I'll pick Ta-Nehisi Coates as a very talented example over there.

There is more to life than a left/right spectrum.

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post #132

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It's not lone wolf terrorism though, it's an organized + well funded movement to end US democracy. They control a bit over 50% of the Republican party, and a growing percentage of the courts (including the supreme court). Heck; Biden is would be considered right wing in most developing countries, and here's his take: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/20... > Donald Trump and the MAGA Republica…

> (including the supreme court) This seems like paranoid thinking. The Supreme Court has shifted ideologically to the right, but I haven’t seen any evidence they are part of a conspiracy to end democracy.

Here's some evidence.

They ruled to allow state legislatures to override voters by changing state law to allow that:

https://news.yahoo.com/analysis-supreme-court-tilted-electio...

and an upcoming case to watch, where they're expected to further undermine laws:

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/30/1106866830/supreme-court-to-t...

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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post #247

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If you can come back by removing the offending element, you aren't really banned. "No offensive t-shirts" is not the same thing as being banned lol

If the offending element is one's personality or one's beliefs, then yes, one can come back by removing that, but it's the same thing as not coming back.

Removing a tweet and removing a belief are two very different things.

Re: “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with diverse viewpoints”

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It would be amazing if a council with diverse viewpoints could even sit together without killing each other in this day and age. Does this exist anywhere?

Diverse is pretty vague, maybe it’s just Elon and not Elon.
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