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Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by wlonkly »

natch wrote: post #182
zestyping wrote: post #16

Countless person-years of engineering effort, and Spotlight is still mostly useless. All I want is to hit Command-F to quickly search the filenames in the current folder (not start a sluggish scan of my entire hard disk). There used to be workarounds for this, but then they removed "Find by Name..." from Finder just to make our lives harder. Does anyone know a workable alternative?

in Terminal: find . -type f -name “ somestring ” but yeah that seems like more typing than one might want compared to a simple text entry field in the GUI.

For what it's worth, the terminal interface to the Spotlight database is "mdfind". It still doesn't solve GP's "only this directory" problem though.

(But your "find" will search in and below the current directory for files that exactly match "somestring".)

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by OttPeterR »

jmiserez wrote: post #218
bxparks wrote: post #84

It looks like Ventura drops support for the 2nd generation (Late 2010 to 2017) MacBook Airs ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Air ). So let's figure one more year for Big Sur, then another year for (edit) Monterey, then I guess they will need to migrate to Linux.

Ventura even drops support for the 2016 (Touchbar) Macbook Pros which is frustrating. The machines are certainly powerful enough. But support for Intel Macs will probably be dropped sooner rather than later.

I’m specifically peeved about this. My personal 2016 mbp has nearly identical specs to my work 2017 mbp but my personal one is being left behind. Maybe there’s some minuscule hardware issue they couldn’t be bothered to work out but 5-6 years of OS updates is upsettingly short. I’d expect that for an android phone but not a high end laptop…

There does seem to be a dev working on porting over the OS if anyone has an earlier mac and really wants the new OS.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by perryizgr8 »

yamtaddle wrote: post #174
anigbrowl wrote: post #167

The update is cool but the update process was not. -Update available, wanna install? Sure -OK don't mind me I'm gonna need a while OK -HA HA I LIED I"M READY TO TERMINATE EVERYTHING BYEEEE WTF 5 reboots with just an Apple icon and a progress bar The progress bar also moves backwards sometimes I guess it's a metaphor for life, which is how long this seems to be taking -OK hello I am back but I need 10 minutes of alone…

> Um preferences -Oh hai I'm called Settings now and I reorganized everything Oh good. I find it by typing "settings" 100% of the time because I can never remember what it's called ("System Preferences", evidently) but that works less-well than it might since that's not the name—it doesn't fully match until I've typed the whole word.

Now I have to rewrite my automator script for dealing with the bug where macos keeps forgetting to put my external monitor into 144 Hz mode.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by mescalito »

alin23 wrote: post #28
galoisscobi wrote: post #9

I’m usually excited about macOS releases but this one is an underwhelming update and don’t see any reason to update any time soon. Stage manager seems like a half measure to introduce better window management in macOS and it doesn’t help that it doesn’t support a keyboard only workflow, from what I can tell from the demos. Coming from i3wm, I found Yabai to be an excellent keyboard-first window manager. I do wish som…

I've been testing Stage Manager since the first developer beta of Ventura and it did feel awkward, as it had no keyboard control, and I feel slower when pointing and clicking to switch apps. But after adding support for it in my rcmd app ( https://lowtechguys.com/rcmd ), and tuning yabai's grid a bit, I found it quite useful for my workflow. Here's a video on how I use Stage Manager with the keyboard shortcuts in rcm…

All codes (new ones too) have been redeemed, interesting app! I personally like Contexts (https://contexts.co/) but it has been barely supported.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by bredren »

antipaul wrote: post #278
bredren wrote: post #178

Wow, clamshell to external monitor support is vastly improved. I couldn't believe it when it happened the first time. I have a MBA M2 going USB-C -> HDMI on a 4k Dell monitor. You can open and close the laptop and it switches the external from secondary to primary and back almost instantaneously. I'd describe this as a major improvement over every prior MacOS.

I think this is an Apple Silicon feature. Did this _not_ work on the same M2 laptop while on Monterey? (I've had this on Monterey from the beginning on M1 MacBook Pro)

It supported clamshell and open, and has for as long as I remember.

But the toggle between the modes had been this slow experience that seemed similar in delay to switching resolutions.

Now it is this blip—-this is your main display, and you can toggle it if you rapidly open and close it, which I can’t really recommend except to cement in your mind that this is the new normal.

It seems wholly different.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by behnamoh »

Terretta wrote: post #318
behnamoh wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Stay tuned for our $100 phone holder for Macs. It has never been done before."

$24 on Amazon: https://smile.amazon.com/Continuity-Ventura-MagSafe-Laptops-... Or $19: https://smile.amazon.com/Continuity-MacBook-Compatible-Magsa... They work quite well with the Magsafe iPhones.

But Apple's version has extra features, like being pricier. It's also made out of cheap plastic in the name of environment.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by acdha »

deergomoo wrote: post #183
anigbrowl wrote: post #167

The update is cool but the update process was not. -Update available, wanna install? Sure -OK don't mind me I'm gonna need a while OK -HA HA I LIED I"M READY TO TERMINATE EVERYTHING BYEEEE WTF 5 reboots with just an Apple icon and a progress bar The progress bar also moves backwards sometimes I guess it's a metaphor for life, which is how long this seems to be taking -OK hello I am back but I need 10 minutes of alone…

I got a Windows PC for the first time in over a decade recently and I cannot understand why MacOS updates are so damned slow

This is only about 5-10 minutes on modern hardware. Historically a lot of developers saw it as slow because it moved the contents of /usr/local in a naive loop which meant that systems using something like Homebrew spent 90% of the total time moving a million files one by one.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by sbf501 »

zestyping wrote: post #16

Countless person-years of engineering effort, and Spotlight is still mostly useless. All I want is to hit Command-F to quickly search the filenames in the current folder (not start a sluggish scan of my entire hard disk). There used to be workarounds for this, but then they removed "Find by Name..." from Finder just to make our lives harder. Does anyone know a workable alternative?

I still use it as fast calculator. And sometimes it can convert units ... sometimes. That's it. I don't think it has EVERY found the file I'm looking for, but Windows search ain't much better. As someone who develops on all three OSes daily, nothing beats `find | grep` or `find | xargs grep`.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by sbf501 »

jedberg wrote: post #72
galoisscobi wrote: post #9

I’m usually excited about macOS releases but this one is an underwhelming update and don’t see any reason to update any time soon. Stage manager seems like a half measure to introduce better window management in macOS and it doesn’t help that it doesn’t support a keyboard only workflow, from what I can tell from the demos. Coming from i3wm, I found Yabai to be an excellent keyboard-first window manager. I do wish som…

If they put a bunch of new features in the OS, everyone complains, "Why don't they focus on stability!!" If they focus on stability, everyone says, "Not enough new features to be worth the upgrade". I guess no one can be happy. Or they expect a ton of new instantly stable features...

For a lot of us, complaining is fun. It has a long tradition in human culture. A good kvetch lets off steam, especially when its a group kvetch.
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