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Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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I use Firefox Focus mostly to watch YouTube vids on my iOS tablet, and it is one big ad-infested experience. Just learned I should look at AdGuard and hope that will bring improvement. Update : On first impression that does not seem to have worked.

I don't believe there is any way for blocking Youtube ads on iOS currently. It's a shame, because those double 15 second ones drive me mad.

Brave blocks YT ads for me.

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Likewise for NextDNS as Androids Private DNS. This combination of Firefox+uBlock and NextDNS+Private DNS makes Android a pleasurable experience.

My only problem with NextDNS is the youtube ads, but that's kinda unavoidable. Otherwise works flawlessly.

YouTube ads are wholly avoidable. I still use the deprecated YouTube Vanced but there are many alternatives like it coming including ReVanced.

https://github.com/revanced

Not only that but with SponsorBlock (integrated in Vanced) you can even automatically skip promotional parts of the videos, intros, outros. The experience is excellent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SponsorBlock

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Except when said web site detects your mobile web browser, and serves a page telling you to download their app instead.

I've only run into one site (Instagram) that forces the use of the app, and I just close the site instead.

Another great example lately is Reddit. Reddit's mobile experience had become awful. Every time someone sends me a reddit link and I click on it, I'm taken to Reddit's mobile site, which should function just fine and dandy, but the minute it detects you are there on a mobile browser, it spams you with "Reddit works best in the app!" messages, and won't let you view some subs at all without signing in. Reddit is a great example of mobile done wrong. Don't be like Reddit.

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The experience is so awful when I browse on my iPad, instead of my Android phone with Firefox+UBlock. I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads. The modern web is so much worse than the pop up ads of the old web.

Even without the ads, you still have multiple cookie popups and banners, floating videos and newsletter notifications to closes before getting to the content. And of course as you scroll down some of those come back (floating videos in particular). There was a time where you could just close the tab if it was that bad, but now pretty much all websites are like this so there's no choice.

Ditch the cookie pop-ups by adding a custom filter list: https://www.i-dont-care-about-cookies.eu/abp/

Enable the uBlock "annoyances" filters to staunch the tide of popups.

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Whoa. Customized adblocking DNS servers? This is definitely striking me as one of those "why didn't I think of that" and "why don't we already have a lot of this?" Any ideas? Seems like you could go wild with this and do something like "Tor"ify, or "torrentify" or dare I say "blockchain" it? Someone can probably school me on why this is harder than it sounds.

AdGuard Home is another option along with the PiHole another commented mentioned. I have that running at home forcing all port 53 traffic to it via the firewall. So ads are blocked on all devices on the network. So easy I sometimes forget I have it running and then I browse on mobile away from home and get bombarded with ads and am reminded why I do it. They do also have their own paid DNS service, but I haven't atte…

For what it's worth, the "sometimes forget I have it running and then I browse on mobile away from home and get bombarded with ads" bothered me enough personally to attempt to smooth it over. Ended up using Tailscale DNS so that every device on my tailnet/VPN benefits. It was painless and has been solid for ~4mo now.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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I categorically reject ads. I want them completely abolished. I will do everything that's in my power to get them out of my machines. If I had just a little bit more courage I would go out at night with cans of spray paint and deface billboards.

There would not be a problem if we had better smartphone OS in the first place. Apple and Google both locked down the environments as hard as they could. This is the result of that and it will never be a fight that you can win if you don't have complete control about your device.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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I categorically reject ads. I want them completely abolished. I will do everything that's in my power to get them out of my machines. If I had just a little bit more courage I would go out at night with cans of spray paint and deface billboards.

> If I had just a little bit more courage I would go out at night with cans of spray paint and deface billboards.

It may be less emotionally rewarding, but in many areas

- many places advertisements violate various rules and on notification local authorities (or other entity) is likely to take action. For example in Poland ads (except political ones, politicians exempted themself again) cannot be ever placed on bridges, lamp posts, traffic signs, guard rails etc. Every single one placed there is illegal and road maintainers remove them once notified.

- local authorities may be allowed to pass laws banning or limiting their presence (Kraków, Poland recently outlawed large part of billboards within city)

Also, removing some of ads may be perfectly legal or with penalties so low that eliminating them is not legally risky.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Even without the ads, you still have multiple cookie popups and banners, floating videos and newsletter notifications to closes before getting to the content. And of course as you scroll down some of those come back (floating videos in particular). There was a time where you could just close the tab if it was that bad, but now pretty much all websites are like this so there's no choice.

There's always a choice. I have no problem with any popups/banners/videos etc. Zero.

To the downvoters: I block everything and disable js totally. Choice is yours to make.

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Likewise for NextDNS as Androids Private DNS. This combination of Firefox+uBlock and NextDNS+Private DNS makes Android a pleasurable experience.

DNS level filtering is the only choice for system level filtering but is less flexible and harder to manually override false positives than application level filtering like ublock. If your browser supports adblock (eg on Android use Firefox or Kiwi) then disable DNS filtering for the browser (ie override the system level filtering) by using browser privacy settings to choose an unfiltered DoH provider like Cloudflare…

Is there a way that a vpn could use the dns filtering list to reject any requests to or from ip addresses that resolve to names in the list? Would that simply break everything?

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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I categorically reject ads. I want them completely abolished. I will do everything that's in my power to get them out of my machines. If I had just a little bit more courage I would go out at night with cans of spray paint and deface billboards.

I’m with you.

I just moved to a new laptop. I haven’t installed ad blockers yet. But interestingly, I seem to have got out of the habit of using the obnoxious ad supported sites. Probably because they became too low quality. I hadn’t even realized my ad blockers weren’t installed until this thread.

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