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Re: German digital signage ban prompts confusion

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How is getting rid of annoying ads at night "normalizing poverty"?

Because it's done in the name of energy savings and the only reason that we all have to save energy is so the political elites of the West can play Risk against Russia.

... you believe it is the west's fault that Putin felt like genociding a bunch of people?

Re: German digital signage ban prompts confusion

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The normalisation of poverty in Europe would much funnier so watch if I didn't live here.

The earth is going to normalize "poverty" (aka not being able to drink 3 dead dinosaurs a day) one way or another. I'd rather live in a place where people are already living sustainably, than a place that constantly overshoots and then collapses when the resources suddenly run out.

Re: German digital signage ban prompts confusion

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Is there a more efficient way of producing light? Because I don't know of any.

The one that's the most neglected is natural lighting. Light pipes, solar collectors, and microprism window treatments are all available. The second thing is white paint. You need less outdoor lighting if the built environment absorbs less light.

You're going to need very long light pipes to use natural lighting for your digital signage at night. Are you really sure that's a better option?

Re: German digital signage ban prompts confusion

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The ads angle, in my opinion, is the least important piece of this news.

What shocks me really is how Germany, one of the (if not THE) most advanced societies on Earth, came to a point where it can not produce enough energy to sustain it's needs.

Western civilization has a masochistic saviour complex, and will freeze to death in winter in the name of "saving the world". I, living in a 3rd world country, can only look and fear whats coming in the future.

If the germanies of the world decide to voluntarily fall, who will become the superpowers in the next decades/centuries? It's a bizarre stupidity contest.

Re: German digital signage ban prompts confusion

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> That is pretty high for no real value for society in my opinion... There is a widespread belief that Advertising serves no purpose to humanity. Advertising is like anything in life: In high doses it is harmful. In lower doses it is useful. If there are regulators in your country that prevent advertisers from making false claims, even better. Advertising has helped me hone onto products and services in my whole life…

> But there is a space for advertising that is gentler, honest and educational. There is no such thing as honest advertising. The conflict of interest is inherent. The best information comes from third parties but even that gets corrupted by advertisers eventually. > Think of advertising as a way of companies to say "Hey! here's something we're proud of -- please have a look. When I want companies talking to me about…

> There is no such thing as honest advertising. The conflict of interest is inherent.

This is obviously untrue. Not only can a merchant engage in only honest advertising, there are those who do.

There's a conflict of interest every time a married man has a drink with an interested woman. That doesn't mean he cheats.

Re: German digital signage ban prompts confusion

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The German Green Party was basically founded on anti-nuclear sentiment. The older members see it as their absolute life goal to stop nuclear power. They would rather see everything burn to the ground than change their mind. As long as they are in government any compromise will be difficult. Also, the situation in Germany is much worse than people from the outside think. Our best-case scenarios actually plan for prett…

You make it sound like it's just the greens. In reality, it was a conservative Christian Democrat lead government that decided to get rid of nuclear power. Together with SPD, the socialists. Both are moderate parties and quite representative of the German attitude towards nuclear. There hasn't been a government without either SPD or CDU leading it. No other party has ever supplied a chancellor in post war Germany. And you'd be wrong to assume FDP is very pro-nuclear.

The current government features SPD (labour), the Greens, and the FDP (conservative). They have their work cut out but it's not an impossible job.

Nuclear might get a temporary and short extension of life in Germany but that 8GW is not going to matter a whole lot relative to the tens of GW of gas that are used for electricity and the many GW more that are being used for heating. The numbers just don't add up. Short term it helps as a stop gap solution but long term there's a need for many tens of GW of additional capacity. Most of that inevitably is going to be wind and solar. Gas is a complete non starter at this point. And coal is quite expensive and coal supplies also are a bit tricky as most of that actually also came from Russia.

The Ukrainian crisis is basically succeeding in making the Germans go cold turkey on gas and coal in a hurry. It's going to be disruptive and expensive but they are going to get it done much earlier than they were originally planning even a year ago. The disruption will be mainly to industry which will suffer most of the consequences of high prices and limited availability of gas. However, that will cause industry to respond by investing in reducing their dependency on those energy sources. Once that takes effect, the transition is permanent. Probably, ten years from now, most coal production in Germany will be gone; most gas heating and electricity will be gone and what little remains will be powered using expensive imports. Some of which might still come from Russia.

Re: German digital signage ban prompts confusion

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The headline is a bit confusing. Looking at the article, the regulation was written in Germany but is passed by the EU (suggesting this will not only affect Germany but also other EU member countries that implement it?) and it is not just about "digital signage" but all illuminted displays in public spaces that aren't necessary for regulating traffic. So this would likely also affect neon signs and illuminated non-di…

e-ink displays are electronically controlled passive displays that use zero power to retain an image. Refreshing them to blank every night and back to the price tag every morning would, in fact, be a waste of power. That's why these price tags are able to be powered by single coin cells.

Re: German digital signage ban prompts confusion

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> Install enough windmills across the entire coastal areas of Europe, That's completely unrealistic. There are times when in all of Europe there is little to no wind. Certainly not enough that one region can provide enough power for all of Europe. Maybe it's possible in China, I don't now their climate, but even they are planning to increase the number of nuclear power plants.

We need a complete transformation of our power usage in any case, both to save energy demand and to make the grid more flexible: - insulate buildings so that they better retain heat. This one is massive - over a third of all energy consumption goes towards buildings [1]! - promote heat pumps (either to air or ground) because these are far more energy efficient for air conditioning and hot water generation - help poor…

Ban ads at night? Insulate our houses even more? Turn off the street lamps? All so we can run our civilization on literal windmills? When we have nuclear that is both safer and cleaner than this ancient technology? Incredible.

It’s like you’re not really pro-climate, but trying to accomplish the secret objective of limiting the scope of human existence. I am reminded of the anti-human religious folk who see humanity as a sinful scourge.

Re: German digital signage ban prompts confusion

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But why don't they just cut the connection at the plant. Agreed about demonizing themselves, they do.

> But why don't they just cut the connection at the plant. Agreed about demonizing themselves, they do. This assumes Russia is a rational actor, they could want to do it and try and have leverage to blame the Ukrainians they could want to do it and try and cause a disaster and blame the Ukrainians.

That's very rational, actually. Not very nice, though.

Re: German digital signage ban prompts confusion

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Interesting to see most of Western Europe go where we, Romania, were back in the 1980s under Ceausescu. Just today I was thinking about how one of my fondest memories as a kid (because it involves me, my parents and our home from back then) is of my dad teaching 5 or 6-year old me how many stairs there were in our block of apartments between two consecutive flors, so that I could use them even after the sun was down,…

Kind of an odd question, but out of curiosity, did the first set of stairs, the one on the ground floor going up, have an "even" or "odd" number of steps? Did the following sets of stairs on higher levels have the same number as the ground floor set or a different amount? Assume "odd" means that when starting on the ground floor, if you were to go up two stairs at a time, you would have to akwardly go up one stair on the final stair, whereas an even number of stairs would allow you to take 2 stair increments at a time without problem.
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