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I spent a year designing a low profile, minimal mechanical keyboard

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Re: I spent a year designing a low profile, minimal mechanical keyboard

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Looks really nice BUT: There's a split between what people online post pics of on fancy desktop setups and what people prefer to use as their daily driver. Minimal keyboards are for minimalists, and people who like to show of their setups. Just like desktop vanity posts typically have speakers, yet everyone uses headphones. Anecdotally there was a post recently on some PC subreddit asking what keyboard people preferr…

> "There's a split between what people online post pics of on fancy desktop setups and what people prefer to use as their daily driver."

I see people use Mac and Windows laptop keyboards in professional capacity day in and day out without difficulty. Aside from that, separate USB numeric keypads are still available for those who really feel the need.

Frankly, I can't even recall anytime in the last decade I touched the numeric keypad even in environments where I had a 100% keyboard.

Re: I spent a year designing a low profile, minimal mechanical keyboard

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It's a beautiful keyboard, no doubt, and I'm sure a lot of care and thought went into making it. For me, having no page up/down buttons (and you do have space for them), is a deal breaker. I can forgive the weird mac-like squiggle button on the top left although it's completely useless to me (and most people I assume), but not the lack of Page Up/Down. I actually use those.

There’s nothing discernibly mac like about the squiggle button, it’s a section sign: §. I think tilde is used more often for sure, but § is particularly common in legal applications.

Re: I spent a year designing a low profile, minimal mechanical keyboard

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post #286

It's a beautiful keyboard, no doubt, and I'm sure a lot of care and thought went into making it. For me, having no page up/down buttons (and you do have space for them), is a deal breaker. I can forgive the weird mac-like squiggle button on the top left although it's completely useless to me (and most people I assume), but not the lack of Page Up/Down. I actually use those.

I'm not sure what you're referring to by "mac-like" squiggle button. The button to the left of the 1 is the standard button on both EU and US keyboard layouts. As a programmer, I'm using ~ daily. I don't use the § which is standard on EU layouts, but it is commonly used in the legal profession.

Re: I spent a year designing a low profile, minimal mechanical keyboard

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Gorgeous. I love the bold choices. Website really pops. Clearly a lot of care went into this whole operation. Kudos on having two different layouts. Aluminum chassis is great. I don't travel with a keyboard often, but if I did, I'd be all over this.

Being in the peanut gallery is fun, so I'm going to echo a few common points.

- I love the dished keys. Would be a neat feel I think to do all keys like that

- staggered is the past, ortho is the present and future

- separate delete/backspace key is great (maybe fn-bksp can do this?)

- I would give my left toe for a trackpoint on a low profile portable keyb.

- I love the novelty/utility of the rotary encoder, but the high profile of the knob kind of defeats the low-profile. A jog wheel or knurled knob would be perfect

- I like all of the font choices - in isolation. Yes even the numbers, which are getting some heat. What irks me is the inconsistency of the fonts. I count 3-5 distinct typefaces. It would be very iconic if you used the number font on all keys. It screams ART and makes it stand out from bog standard keycaps.

- I know split is hard to engineer, but it's worth mentioning, because that would really knock this out of the atmosphere.

Re: I spent a year designing a low profile, minimal mechanical keyboard

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Looks striking, but does this actually exist, or is this (so far) just a design project? There's a lot of promises here - recycled materials, machined aluminum, assembled in London - but I don't see any evidence that a single keyboard has actually been built yet. I know, you gotta fake it 'til you make it, but I think it's important to be honest with your customers. We've all seen plenty of speculative designs that s…

You know, it hadn't crossed my mind when I first browsed the page, but now that I've read your comment, it seems very likely that this is entirely an art concept with 0 progress made towards making it a real product. And I agree about your conclusion that this level of detail making it close to dishonesty, rather than faking till you make it. Hopefully you're wrong.

How can it be dishonesty when he doesn’t promise anything? He shows the product and invites you to get updates on the way forward. In addition both he and the electronics designer answer questions here.

Re: I spent a year designing a low profile, minimal mechanical keyboard

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I love how its called the "EMO AI" keyboard!

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Love the design - would really like to try it out, IMO - I hate when sites have no cost info. At least put a ball park price on the page.

The only thing I see missing from the design is spill-proofing?

Re: I spent a year designing a low profile, minimal mechanical keyboard

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post #286

It's a beautiful keyboard, no doubt, and I'm sure a lot of care and thought went into making it. For me, having no page up/down buttons (and you do have space for them), is a deal breaker. I can forgive the weird mac-like squiggle button on the top left although it's completely useless to me (and most people I assume), but not the lack of Page Up/Down. I actually use those.

I have a Chromebook where Page Up/Page Down is Alt-Up Arrow and Alt-Down Arrow. It might be the OS doing that mapping, rather than the keyboard (have never really investigated). Works OK.

Re: I spent a year designing a low profile, minimal mechanical keyboard

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I run a subreddit on mobile ergonomics ( http://reddit.com/r/ergomobilecomputers/ ) and spent the past year using raised tablet PC as my only machine, and curating the smaller subset of portable keyboard & computer setups. My advice: - drop the rotary encoder, it messes up the height for packing the keyboard away. - a 75% layout (i.e. having fn keys) is okay, but makes it a bit challenging to fit in with a 13" tablet…

> drop the rotary encoder, it messes up the height for packing the keyboard away If that's really a concern the correct approach would be to make the knob low-profile. > What ergonomic job does this design serve? This does not claim to be an "ergonomic" keyboard.

I think you are misunderstanding their use of the word ergonomic. They're using it in the literal sense, not the colloquial sense of gimmicky layout keyboards. All keyboards should be ergonomic in the literal sense.
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