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Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by driverdan »

TekMol wrote: post #10

Fold or not, what I want for a laptop is: A tablet with a matte screen. That can run Linux. So I can put it on a stand and a keyboard in front of it. That would be the ultimate travel setup! Working in cafes without having to look down all the time. Does something like this exist?

I have a Surface Pro 7 and it's great for this. It doesn't have a matte screen but does the rest of it well. I'm running PopOS on it and switch between the included keyboard and an external keyboard with it on a tablet arm.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by hombre_fatal »

Folding tech for phones wasn't quite as interesting, just a small cherry on top of something we already accommodate. Fine.

But folding tech for 17" screens is amazing because of how massive those screens are. They are completely unwieldy in the normal unfolding form factor, unlikely to fit in your backpack.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by mox1 »

londons_explore wrote: post #197
geraldwhen wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

God help your soul if you need to deal with an ASUS hardware RMA. They are easily the worst PC hardware manufacturer of all, and they sell clearly damaged and broken parts as "refurb." They are terrible.

I really wish they'd design the case of the product to be fully removable easily (ie. 30 seconds with the right tool). Then a 'refurb' can consist of switching your case onto new innards. Since this form of 'refurb' would be so cheap to operate, all warranty claims could be handled this way no questions asked. Send the old innards back to the factory to run the full factory test suite, and if they pass then great, an…

You are describing the framework laptop. Maybe not 30 seconds, but all you need is a screwdriver

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by rsynnott »

iasay wrote: post #32
jfoster wrote: post #20

Looks fancy. Is this what the market wants? I don't particularly like Apple, but I use a Macbook Pro. I've been keeping an eye out for a non-Apple alternative to a Macbook, but nothing seems to come close in terms of hardware. I don't mean technical specs. I mean a beautiful screen, reasonable dimensions & weight, a really good touchpad, great battery life, etc. A big foldable screen looks cool, but doesn't feel at a…

The reason that there is no non-Apple alternatives to the MacBook Pro is because everyone is too focused on blue sky innovation rather than actually doing the best job of stuff that already exists. Quality is the feature that apple sell. I don't think anyone else gets near them.

> because everyone is too focused on blue sky innovation rather than actually doing the best job of stuff that already exists.

Including, for a while, Apple. How quickly people have forgotten the touchbar!

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by samstave »

seltzered_ wrote: post #300

I run a subreddit on ergonomic mobile computers ( https://reddit.com/r/ergomobilecomputers ) and find this intriguing. Aside from concerns about the folding display, the keyboard is wireless and detachable unlike a Microsoft surface, so you can actually put the display on a stand and not worry about craning your neck down - all with the stock keyboard. In my setup I actually have the screen close up such that I no lo…

Ive used the foldable oled samsung phone a few times, and I REALLY like foldable OLEDs -- No idea how long they will hold up (how many folds between noticing the wear on the screen in that area, pixel failures (do OLEDs have pixels/failure of pixels?)

But what will be dope is seeing these in kiosk like control panels in series, like this https://i.imgur.com/4n0Rld8.jpg

I like these... I wonder if we can have an "Environmental Impact" Rating on consumer electronics these days.

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Post by can16358p »

JadeNB wrote: post #224
can16358p wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So... the kids will probably not have much friends as all the other kids will be socializing online even if that's inferior to physical friendship. Good or bad, that is the norm now and if you don't let your kid access to a tablet while all the other kids do, that child will be lacking a lot of confidence and practical tech skills. A balance with both iPad time and physical activity time would be a better tradeoff IM…

> Good or bad, that is the norm now and if you don't let your kid access to a tablet while all the other kids do, that child will be lacking a lot of confidence and practical tech skills. I'm pretty sure most of us on HN grew up without access to iPads, but still somehow developed practical tech skills, including the ability to learn to use iPads.

We've grown up to something technically harder-to-use than an iPad, and I'm comparing today's equivalent.

If we normalize this to current HN audience's childhood (roughly), it's more like not touching a computer and not seeing a modem until 20s, while all the kids know at least how to turn a computer, use Windows Explorer/Mac Finder, developed motor skills to use a keyboard efficiently, know how to modify Word docs etc. and the social norm is knowing all these things (as opposed to our chilhood).

Sure, a legendary hacker might arise after touching a computer first time after 20s, but much less likely.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by michaelsalim »

This is really exciting. Being able to fold will make it so much easier to carry around. My dream is to have a 24 or even a 27 inch monitor that you can fit in an every day backpack.

I don't really care that it's also a laptop. Heck, I don't get why you would ever want a foldable phone. But foldable monitor at this size makes a lot of difference in packing.

At 17 inch, it's not the biggest difference since you can still fit that in a backpack. 24 inch? Good luck. But I'd imagine the size to increase over time. Surprised nobody is talking more about this.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by samstave »

jmartrican wrote: post #235

I'm a programmer that spends a lot of time programming on my laptop without an extra screen. I use 15" laptops exclusively because it has a decent balance between screen size and portability. But when coding (and a lot of coding is done over Zoom where folks with bigger screens are sharing their desktops) every little bit of real-estate counts. So the idea of having a 17" in a more portable form factor, and weight is…

I HIGHLY recommend you grab a couple of these: AOC USB Screens [0]. They are cheap, LIGHT, and great. I have two of them with my also 15" Omen laptop.[1] So I have a full size gaming/workstation machine, and TWO external screens, at 1920 while the machine is 2500 resolution... and ALL of this fits in my backpack. and is super light.

[0] https://www.amazon.com/AOC-I1659FWUX-USB-Powered-Portable-19...

[1] https://i.imgur.com/MJNWvif.jpg

(Also, I am designing a bracket using the VESA mount screws on the back of the screens to attach them to the small camera tripods I have which are also very light and fit in backpack - this way, I can mount one screen behind the laptop, and have that screen directly above my laptop screen, and then another to the side.)

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by vips7L »

jeroenhd wrote: post #202
vips7L wrote: post #142

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Lenovo just launched the Thinkpad X13s with an ARM CPU. My only issue with it is that it's fanless: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadx/th...

Sadly, Qualcom's performance is still laughable compared to Apple's M1. You can get a Macbook air for around the same price that runs twice as fast (and probably has better speakers). If you intend to run Windows, you'll also run into slower x64 applications more often than with a Mac. I'm really not sure what the advantage would be for picking a Qualcom processor over getting an i3 or lower end AMD APU. Someone real…

IIRC while it does under perform apples CPU’s it performed as well as intel’s mobile i5’s

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by can16358p »

tootie wrote: post #310
can16358p wrote: post #177

But what is the software support for the folding screen? The hardware is cool and assuming it doesn't break in a few months, I see the lack of much software support as the biggesr adoption roadblocker. I don't think just treating it as one big screen or two/three separate screens without any more context would be enough.

I don't see why not. I don't think it folds to arbitrary configurations. It will just toggle between two different rectangles. Modern PCs handle plugging and unplugging external monitors no problem

It's about the context.

Modern PCs have an external monitor in addition to the main one just to extend the area. This one, because of its placement especially in the semi-folded form, would unlikely to be used just like a normal display, because of their position and rotation relative to the user, that one sees in front of their eyes, so additional software measures would be needed to make use of that space efficiently to, say (making it up), keep app windows on the main area but move shortcuts, desktop items, widgets to the bottom area etc.

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