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Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by jarbus »

MichaelCollins wrote: post #182
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VR wouldn’t even be a thing anymore without their efforts. PC Tower VR is a dead end where the complexity and hardware costs will never take it the customer base size that justifies developing non-indie content. I don’t think Valve would have even bothered building Index without the Oculus threat.

> VR wouldn’t even be a thing anymore without their efforts. As long as Facebook owns it, it may as well not be a thing to me. Facebook "saving" VR is a utterly pyrrhic victory. If facebook owns it then it wasn't worth saving.

I’ll happily let them spend the billions in R&D to develop the hardware, sdks, and advertising to the mainstream though. Hopefully they do all the hard work so when a decent company comes in, there’s a lot less to do for a much more developed ecosystem.

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Post by filoleg »

Macha wrote: post #131
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VR wouldn’t even be a thing anymore without their efforts. PC Tower VR is a dead end where the complexity and hardware costs will never take it the customer base size that justifies developing non-indie content. I don’t think Valve would have even bothered building Index without the Oculus threat.

I mean, so far the three titles I would call "non-Indie", those being Fallout VR, Skyrim VR and HL: Alyx, are PC VR exclusives. Stuff like Beat Saber and VRChat which are the most succesful VR games, predate the Quest, and are probaby helped that beat saber only needs the motion controls part of VR - were it not for facebook using it to sell the Quest nowadays, we would have had a switch port by now I feel. And VRcha…

You can play any PCVR games on Quest by either using a cable or through airlink connecting to your PC. Both are native features. I've played through Half-Life: Alyx this way with zero issues whatsoever.

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Post by esyir »

atomicnumber3 wrote: post #51
sillysaurusx wrote: post #10

I'm shocked that there aren't more multiplayer VR experiences. Yes, sure, there's Pavlov and VR Chat. But unless you have a friend who's into VR Chat, it's remarkably difficult to find a game that can immerse two different people at the same time. It felt a bit ironic that mini golf was one of the most fun multiplayer party games. My wife was like "You should bring over your quest 2!" to our new house -- she already…

I have a Vive and have played a decent number of hours in VR, and overall like it quite a lot. It's really amazing how readily our brain will "adopt" two floating hands as your own body. I'm bullish on the future of VR gaming. But I do think there's a big hurdle, and that's our inner ear. Teleport-based controls are jank but it seems really difficult to prevent motion sickness when using any kind of movement that tra…

There's a few tricks that VR games can do to handle motion sickness with free movement. Some have already mentioned the edge of screen effects, but another would be tying movement to the "running" arm movements. That, for some odd reason, significantly reduces motion sickness.

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by esyir »

arrakeen wrote: post #280
jedberg wrote: post #254

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> I don’t know a single person who uses it daily. I know a bunch of people who use it daily. They are all using Immersed[0] for work (disclosure, I'm an investor, but I invested because of the love their early customers had for the platform). Basically, you get a bunch of virtual monitors in VR. It's way cheaper and much more portable than dragging five massive screens around, and the isolation is the point -- you ca…

to someone who is prone to headaches with poor eyesight and long eyelashes (smudges the lenses), the idea of working in VR all day is at best delusional and at worst discriminatory

I'd say claiming that the concept of working in VR is discriminatory is at at the very least extreme hyperbole.

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Post by esyir »

ilaksh wrote: post #271
emadabdulrahim wrote: post #8

I feel like an old grumpy man saying this, but I hate the idea of wearing a device on my face to literally hijack one of the precious senses one has. I'm sure over time I'll look back and laugh at myself for thinking that way.

The next version of Quest 2 will probably have color passthrough video and be much less uncomfortable and heavy. Right now I can only tolerate it to enable playing table tennis but it is too uncomfortable for working. Next Quest might change that. The direction they are going in the next five years or so is truly comfortable goggles or even normal glasses that do augmented reality with high field of view. So it will…

I'm interested to see what the lens advancements are going to look like. A good chunk of the weight/bulk comes from the current lens setup, so if the new ones reduce bulk and weight, that would make life a lot better.

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by rblatz »

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #310
rblatz wrote: post #253

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I just read a thread from 2021 on reddit yesterday where an Oculus employee said that they wouldn't be adding color passthrough cameras, and that the current cameras worked on ir and likely would for a while. I'll see if I can dig it up, but it seems like color passthrough isn't going to be on the menu for the 3.

I'd love the link if you can.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/n6xuwo/demeo_w...

It’s the first comment chain in this link

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by noncoml »

spywaregorilla wrote: post #241
noncoml wrote: post #171

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Yeah early as in early in market domination.

And they're still losing money with no path towards profitability or market domination?

Yeah don’t disagree. But how will increasing the price help them?

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Post by arran-nz »

wyldfire wrote: post #71
sillysaurusx wrote: post #10

I'm shocked that there aren't more multiplayer VR experiences. Yes, sure, there's Pavlov and VR Chat. But unless you have a friend who's into VR Chat, it's remarkably difficult to find a game that can immerse two different people at the same time. It felt a bit ironic that mini golf was one of the most fun multiplayer party games. My wife was like "You should bring over your quest 2!" to our new house -- she already…

That one "Keep talking and nobody explodes" game was pretty fun just as a regular planar projection game. I can see it being more fun in VR (and I think they have a VR edition) [1] https://keeptalkinggame.com/

The VR version is one of my favourite party games to play with friends - It's intense.

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by ilaksh »

arbitrary_name wrote: post #290
ilaksh wrote: post #257

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It doesn't mean VR is failing. It's because the entire global economy is in a massive downturn hurting profits of all companies and Meta decided they should not subsidize the headset cost anymore.

People keep saying this but i really don't see it: we have only one quarter of reduced GDP growth, unemployment is near record lows, corporate profits are strong or merely stung by supply chain issues. Where is this giant recession? Equity prices are not representative of economic performance, and needed to be corrected anyway...

Almost all large companies doing huge layoffs.

Projected famine.

Record breaking inflation.

Big increase in homelessness and crime.

Some countries absolutely falling apart.

Other countries just "too big to fail" (but not to big to threaten WWIII).

You and I live in parallel universes apparently.

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Post by KronisLV »

dmix wrote: post #183
yonaguska wrote: post #3

As much as I wanted to get into VR, Meta taking over the Quest has thankfully saved me countless sunken dollars and hours.

You're missing out, Quest 2 was one of the best purchases I've made in the last year. I also don't think VR is good enough to be worth investing $1k+ into a VR headset like Vive. $300 seemed like a very high return on investment for what I got. Not sure about $400 since I already have one but I'd probably still do it. I also made a fake, empty Facebook account to use the Oculus store, so I don't feel like it's a priv…

How are the options for connecting a Quest 2 to a desktop PC?

Can you use it as a virtual desktop, like Arcan Safespaces: https://arcan-fe.com/2018/03/29/safespaces-an-open-source-vr...

What about writing code in VR with unlimited virtual monitors/windows?

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