Probably stupid question but are keys like https://cdn.cle-serrure.fr/media/catalog/product/cache/13/im... that easy to pick ? I was under the impression that they were made this way exactly because they made the creation of tools harder (variation of widths of circles, code encoded on the small width of the key and not its big height...)
My understanding is that they are generally harder to pick, but not in any real fundamental way. Example: https://youtu.be/verPAfwVSGg . Although he is really struggling here which is a huge win for the lock.
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Now to do it again to make sure it wasn't a fluke
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I find that part funny as I never saw any question in a comment answered.
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#323Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> So I am not saying that a brute-forceable lock is not pickable > You quite literally said it's not pickable and not even lockpicking at all I think you have a problem with me communicating using (formal) logic. If I say that A (lock is brute-forceable) is true, I am not making a statement on whether B (lock is pickable) is true: it could be either true or false. When I say that B is not true when A is, it means th…
> I think you have a problem with me communicating using (formal) logic. The problem is that what you're saying is contradictory to itself. You're conveniently ignoring all of the flaws being pointed out, and instead reiterating the same argument ad nauseam, while also moving goal posts and morphing qualifiers as needed. > but only when you are able to reduce the problem space from the full set of combinations would…
I am not ignoring it: I was bringing a point on terminology, not on this particular lock or lock-picking methods.
You seem to be unable to accept that people tend to and do use different terminology for same things, or same terminology for different things.
> Yet, when presented with an option to defeat the lock in less than 4 hours, your reaction was to repeatedly state that it doesn't even count as lockpicking. I don't know what else to say.
You need not say anything else, because I like to consider this a design idea, rather than a lock on a non-existent doors.
What would be the effect on the time to "lockpick" exactly the same type of lock but with two more or double the number of pins (as an obvious counter measure)?
Remember that this is a proof of concept lock and there are no doors it protects, so any actual implementation should be able to easily apply obvious extensions where higher security is needed. Again, it's not about this particular lock, but if there is an obvious scalability to the design, a lockpicking method only works if it scales linearly (like with regular pins, where you only test each pin individually).
Yeah, I don't accept your terminology, and you don't accept mine (no matter how you try to stretch it how it being half on average is reducing the problem space when it's not: that's rudimentary math, and when you reduce the problem space in a smart way, it applies to each method: eg. testing individual pins, you'll find them on average in half the attempts...).
I do struggle to understand why are you so keen to convince others how your use of terminology is the only acceptable use: it's ok to agree to disagree.
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#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I think you have a problem with me communicating using (formal) logic. The problem is that what you're saying is contradictory to itself. You're conveniently ignoring all of the flaws being pointed out, and instead reiterating the same argument ad nauseam, while also moving goal posts and morphing qualifiers as needed. > but only when you are able to reduce the problem space from the full set of combinations would…
> And you're still ignoring that the entire point of the lock being discussed is that traditional lockpicking methods wouldn't work. I am not ignoring it: I was bringing a point on terminology, not on this particular lock or lock-picking methods. You seem to be unable to accept that people tend to and do use different terminology for same things, or same terminology for different things. > Yet, when presented with an…
You declared an entirely new definition for lockpicking which is contradictory to all accepted definitions of lockpicking, and then used it to repeatedly insist that the lock being discussed isn't pickable. Your comments are public and what you said is clearly visible, so please stop creating new realities when holes are poked in the previously concocted one.
> You seem to be unable to accept that people tend to and do use different terminology for same things, or same terminology for different things. [...] I do struggle to understand why are you so keen to convince others how your use of terminology is the only acceptable use: it's ok to agree to disagree.
You appear unable to accept that there is an entire industry of locksmithing experts and 100% of them use the same terminology. You are insisting that your invented definitions based on zero locksmithing knowledge should be more relevant than the actual definitions standardized over 4,000 years by hundreds of thousands of experts.
The rest of your comment consists of even more bizarre new definitions for lockpicking and mathematics which contradict reality, and veers even further away from the actual topic being discussed. I refuse to engage with it, because you are making all of your arguments in bad faith. If you can provide any shred of evidence for any of your claims about lockpicking, logic or math, I'll happily concede. But we both know that evidence doesn't exist.
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#326For the curious, my friend Jim picked this lock. https://youtu.be/hBKM5odMTds
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#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
> And you're still ignoring that the entire point of the lock being discussed is that traditional lockpicking methods wouldn't work. I am not ignoring it: I was bringing a point on terminology, not on this particular lock or lock-picking methods. You seem to be unable to accept that people tend to and do use different terminology for same things, or same terminology for different things. > Yet, when presented with an…
> I am not ignoring it: I was bringing a point on terminology, not on this particular lock or lock-picking methods. You declared an entirely new definition for lockpicking which is contradictory to all accepted definitions of lockpicking, and then used it to repeatedly insist that the lock being discussed isn't pickable. Your comments are public and what you said is clearly visible, so please stop creating new realit…
Good job and keep at it, you'll certainly make everyone right on the internet again.
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Just download the videos you want to watch: https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp The only "ads" you get will be the ones the video uploaders encode directly into the video itself. Plus you can watch using whatever playback software works best on your system, instead of the rather feature free JS player youtube provides.
This is the only way to enjoy youtube without a premium account, and even with a premium account it's still far better to use a proper player like mpv. But it seems likely to me that YouTube will eventually start embedding the ads more inextricably into the video streams while downloaded. Especially as more people use tools like youtube-dl/yt-dlp to circumvent ads.