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Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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It seems like you want these things to happen so you can gloat and say "I told you so" If instead you were interested in the opposite result - making women's reproductive rights explicitly legal - what you would need to do in a democracy is convince enough people to vote for the laws you want. To do that you need to understand what the people you disagree with are actually saying and what the actual words are in the…

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I never said to wait and see about anything. I am saying to do something about this step that is actually happening. Not about some hypothetical step that may or may not happen in the future.

As for being hysterical, it's never ok. It accomplishes nothing. Goalposts stable enough, for you?

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I recently declined an Apple role that required Austin relocation. I like Austin and considered the move, but ultimately my family is my priority. We can't risk moving to a tech hub in a blistering red state with growing regulation on personhood. I told the recruiter Apple needs to reconsider where it plans to do long-term business.

I moved to Fort Worth a long time ago for work, we had a 1 year old. I didn't really like the idea of him going to school with kids... lets say, of the "Texas mentality", but was really just using the job as a stepping stone to get out of my home state and hoped to be in CA before he'd reach school age. The first week there we met a family that had also just moved from a northern state and ended up hanging out with t…

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Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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They are a tiny minority at this point. I don't care what they want. This is a democracy, not a dictatorship. The polls agree with me. Edit: Republican leadership is seriously considering banning birth control and sodomy at this point, and jailing rape victims for having questionable miscarriages. I do not believe these policies align with the opinions of average Republican voters. However, this is what Republican po…

Literally every state that bans abortion has concessions for rape victims, not a single one enforces any laws against birth control. I'm not sure who you think you're fighting here.

Factually wrong:

"Of the 22 states with abortion bans that will instantly take effect if the landmark Supreme Court ruling is overturned, 10 have passed laws that make no exceptions for rape or incest: Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Texas."

https://news.yahoo.com/some-republican-states-set-to-ban-abo...

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Nazi is a loaded term for sure but I don't know what else to call it.

Not all Republicans have this behavior and or hold these policy aims. But a shocking amount of people do.

Many hold up the ideals of fascism.

And they use actual Nazi tactics.

banning books. passing laws that actively discriminate. using hate & violent propaganda/speech for political ends.

scariest: dehumanizing minority groups which enables their supporters to commit 'righteous violence.'

e.g. labeling queer people 'groomers' (or sadly ironically anyone who stands up against the state banning books).

using government law enforcement to the above ends. see recent police escorting proud boys into a library to yell at and intimidate a bunch of kids who were with their parents, only because a drag queen was reading to them. Talk about leaving parenting up to the parents.

Or filling up a van with a not so well organized militia to storm pride in tactical gear.

How about running black teachers out of town because of nonexistent CRT nonsense. Then following her to her next job which had nothing to do with diversity & inclusion, which is how evil for some reason.

and the biggest of them all:

attacking Democracy and the foundations of this country. Attempting to overturn a free and fair election. Attacking the seat of power in an attempt to prevent the peaceful handover of Government.

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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When TX first passed its law that allowed anyone to sue individuals that had or aided an abortion, Apple offered to pay for transport and the procedure for anyone at its new Austin campus. https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/09/17/apple-is-monitori...

Honestly, Apple should be dialing down investment in Texas.

I mean, Apple is investing hundreds of billions in China where they literally have ethnic cleansing going on....

They can't exactly be one to take principled stances can they...

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Well, the whole reason why this situation took place is because people in red states are fed up with the influx of blue voters, that end up bringing in the exact problems that made them relocate. This is how empires fall. As people with different political views no longer depend on each other economically, they drift more and more into opposite directions, until they do not want to share the same government anymore.

I disagree with what you say. But am commenting on the 'economic ties' of diplomacy theory.

Seems pretty debunked given the last decade of geopolitical changes and current war.

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The migration pattern in the nation seems to be: 1. Going to your super cool tech job in California when you get out of college. 2. After that, you get older and want to buy a house and settle down, and not pay state income tax, and so you move out to a red state to work remote and turn it blue with all the love of diversity picked up in California. Strict abortion laws might serve as somewhat of a barrier to this so…

> and turn it blue with all the love of diversity picked up in California.

No thanks. Stay in California, please.

I like Texas as it is. Texas will likely, eventually, end up passing some sort of abortion laws similar to what European nations have - no abortions after 12 weeks, abortions in case of incest / rape, etc.

Frankly, I'd prefer to see Congress get off their ass and do their job and work together on federal abortion laws, since that's... you know... their goddamn fucking job... to pass laws... but we all know it'll never happen because Nancy Pelosi can cry to her ultra-liberal base that, "We TRIED sooooo hard, but the mean ol' Republicans won't let us abort babies 7 seconds before they're born!" and Mitch McConnell can cry to his ultra-conservative base that, "We wanted to meet those baby killers halfway, but they want to abort babies when they're still 16-cell zygotes! Godless heathens!"

And then we end up right back to where we are now, with states deciding... all because we have Congressional leadership and members who are so cowardly they don't understand that their job isn't to get re-elected, it's to pass laws beneficial to the entire nation, with which, the entire nation can live.

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Look at national opinion polls. The US is incredibly united right now. 70% want medicare for all (53% want single payer health care). Strong majorities object to overturning Roe v Wade and rolling back gun control laws. The issue is that the senate can be filibustered with 5% of the US population's backing. A majority vote requires 8%. A fillibuster-proof majority requires 12%. This implies that it would not take man…

Not to overly pick a nit, but if you dig into that Medicare for all poll, only a single digit percentage of Americans support it when you get into the actual details of the plan as presented at the time of the poll.

Sure but I think the thrust of OP is correct.

single payer alone is close to 70% now.

medicare itself is very very popular in that age group.

People are easily scared and those that already have good care are afraid of losing it. Look at death panels.

but the general idea of healthcare as a fundamental right and a national system of health are very popular.

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Literally. It's batsh*t crazy. Don't worry though, the favorability of these partisan companies are at the lowest they've ever been. These companies will learn the hard way and it's gonna be so much fun to watch. It's just a matter of time before better alternatives come out and destroy these companies. As soon as there's true alternatives, people will switch.

Can't wait to spend my ad dollars on Parler! /ffs

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The migration pattern in the nation seems to be: 1. Going to your super cool tech job in California when you get out of college. 2. After that, you get older and want to buy a house and settle down, and not pay state income tax, and so you move out to a red state to work remote and turn it blue with all the love of diversity picked up in California. Strict abortion laws might serve as somewhat of a barrier to this so…

You don’t have to move to a red state to avoid state income tax. You can move to Washington.

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So the state should force them to make the choice you’d prefer?

I know, it's almost like when it comes to harming other people the state has some sort of power over us. I'm sure there are some people that would love to murder their neighbors. I mean, if that's their preference, why should the state intervene at all? If you're engaging in some activity that doesn't harm other individuals, go for it, who cares. In the case of an abortion, there's at least some gray area. I hope we…

> When does a human life start?

When you take your first breath.

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