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Please don’t let anyone Americanise it (1992)

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Re: Please don’t let anyone Americanise it (1992)

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_23sd wrote: post #133
Freeboots wrote: post #126

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Sorcerer's Stone is particularly annoying i agree. Not like philosophers' stone is an existing mythos highly relevant to the story or anything. Another that bugged me was Northern Lights -> The Golden Compass. Apparently NL was too abstract for American audiences? Oh and Harlequin -> The Archer's Tale.

>Northern Lights -> The Golden Compass According to Pullman that one wasn't really about an attempt at cultural adaptation, the title had been in flux and the US publisher had taken an early name for the upcoming series, "The Golden Compasses", and run with it before he settled on Northern Lights.

Oh thats interesting, cheers

Re: Please don’t let anyone Americanise it (1992)

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Post by Freeboots »

auxbuss wrote: post #219
Freeboots wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorcerer's Stone is particularly annoying i agree. Not like philosophers' stone is an existing mythos highly relevant to the story or anything. Another that bugged me was Northern Lights -> The Golden Compass. Apparently NL was too abstract for American audiences? Oh and Harlequin -> The Archer's Tale.

re: The Golden Compass (sic) Not only did the American editors change the title, but the device in question – the alethiometer, which is not a compass – is made of brass not gold in the original text. The US editors basically changed it to gold to fit their created title.

I never noticed that! Did they really change it to gold?

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Post by adolph »

capitainenemo wrote: post #236
adolph wrote: post #234

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This is very nice as it addresses the zero-index nature of time by going 0-23 instead of 1-24. Time would be much more comprehensible if all clock were marked that way.

Hm, I think most countries that use 24h time systems use 00:00:00 to 23:59:59

Ok, it is interesting that the top of 12h clocks in those countries is often a 12 instead of a zero [0]. Maybe the tension of a cardinal zero in an ordinal world (i.e. 1900 is the 20th century) lead the Swiss Railway to de-number the 12h clock [1].

0. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gare_de_Lyon_xCRW_13...

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_railway_clock

Re: Please don’t let anyone Americanise it (1992)

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Post by sarchertech »

pwinnski wrote: post #312
sarchertech wrote: post #143

By far the stupidest Americanization I've encountered is when Netflix changed "The Great British Bake Off" to "The Great British Baking Show". They are honestly recording 2 versions of every intro for this?

A single version, with digital replacement of visuals. And that's due to a trademark issue in the US, unfortunately.

In the newer shows, the hosts actually say “The Great British Baking Show” during the intro.

Re: Please don’t let anyone Americanise it (1992)

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Post by [deleted] »

pessimizer wrote: post #167
gordian-mind wrote: post #136

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> The reason is because black people will watch white movies, but white people don't watch black movies. What happened to "people just want to be represented in movies"? Simply put, since there are more whites than blacks in the U.S., then every film-maker has an incentive to represent them more to reach a broader audience. This is absolutely not because "white people are more bigoted", which is laughable when you co…

I don't understand the argument that you're making. Black people expect not to be represented in movies, and so seeing someone like themselves is not essential to appreciate them (although a token certainly helps.) White people are alienated from movies they don't see themselves in. Therefore movies made for white people will not lose black audiences, but movies made for black people will lose white audiences. You se…

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Re: Please don’t let anyone Americanise it (1992)

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Post by gordian-mind »

inkywatcher wrote: post #165
gordian-mind wrote: post #136

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> The reason is because black people will watch white movies, but white people don't watch black movies. What happened to "people just want to be represented in movies"? Simply put, since there are more whites than blacks in the U.S., then every film-maker has an incentive to represent them more to reach a broader audience. This is absolutely not because "white people are more bigoted", which is laughable when you co…

> surely Would you mind substantiating this?

I don't believe there an exact measurable statistic that captures this, however it'd be interesting to:

- reflect on how many white people have made a social virtue out of countersignaling their own group;

- point out how low the bar is in the rest of the world, and how easy this comparison really is.

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