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Including “And. And. And. And. And.” in a Google doc causes it to crash

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Re: Including “And. And. And. And. And.” in a Google doc causes it to crash

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Post by hnaccount_rng »

JoshuaDavid wrote: post #270
ineedasername wrote: post #261

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How did you stumble on Dearness?

Started running through the entire dictionary in batches of 500 words to see if each batch of 500 triggered the behavior, then binary search within the batch to find the problem word(s). Got bored partway through D. Edit: Got unbored. Discovered that "Firstly", "Secondly", "Thirdly", and "Fourthly" trigger the bug, but "Fifthly" and above do not. Edit 2: The first word can actually be any of the "problem" words -- "A…

Upvote for unbored. And a perfect illustration for HN xD

Re: Including “And. And. And. And. And.” in a Google doc causes it to crash

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Post by jseban »

KMag wrote: post #164
wutbrodo wrote: post #157

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My recollection from my time there, as well as one of the biggest cultural differences noticeable between my and my workplaces since, is that big chunks of the company really do believe in the blameless postmortem ideal. But culture isn't a magic tool that completely neutralizes assholes, and there are assholes in _every_ organization of sufficient size, like the "[name redacted]" character in the previous post

I probably should have left [redacted]'s name out of it. He's a nice guy, but a bit cynical and rough on the edges, at least he was 15 years ago. He fit in well in New York, brutally honest, but actually generally nice. Edit: I should point out that we were in Google NYC, as were the researchers. We had lunch with them some times. I remember the first name and face of the guy who submitted the slow code, but forget h…

"What happens in New York stays in New York"? What kind of bullshit is this

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Post by jseban »

KMag wrote: post #252
wutbrodo wrote: post #240

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> New Yorker to New Yorker adds a lot of context. Google's corporate culture is generally very Californian As a lifelong Californian who moved to NY, this makes sense. Though I don't know if it's a blanket excuse... There's a reason that my friends at Goldman would agree that Google's culture is better, and a lot of it has to do with the difference between CA and NY culture. I completely dismiss the claims that the d…

I grew up in the upper Midwest, went to school outside Boston, and spent most of my adult life in New York and Hong Kong. I haven't spent much time in California, so maybe I'm placing too many of the cultural problems I saw at Google at the foot of Californian culture. I saw lots of pressure to "be Googly", which seemed to result in a lot of passive-aggression. That matches the stereotypes I've heard of LA and SF cul…

Why am I not surprised that you are actually not a New Yorker, always the transplants that project their most negative sides onto the city culture as an excuse

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Post by jseban »

jiggawatts wrote: post #175
haliskerbas wrote: post #131

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Some people might get off on that kind of culture. But this story makes me glad I don’t work there for some reason.

Conversely I would prefer to work in a place like that. Professionalism at scale isn’t achievable by tolerating idiotic behaviour and being nice to everyone no matter how dangerously stupid they are being. There is a point where someone has to put their foot down and demand things be done properly, otherwise the inevitable consequence is a giant mess leading to disaster. You might be used to small startup teams with…

> There is a point where someone has to put their foot down and demand things be done properly, otherwise the inevitable consequence is a giant mess leading to disaster.

This is what management is for, too bad tech companies are too cool for that and prefer to live out lord of the flies.

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Post by jseban »

a-dub wrote: post #156
haliskerbas wrote: post #131

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Some people might get off on that kind of culture. But this story makes me glad I don’t work there for some reason.

having spent time on both sides of the fence, i've noticed that there can be a rivalry of sorts between software engineers and ml/ds/researcher types. researcher types often get to work on problems that swe types find interesting, so some swes get grumbly. researcher types also tend to write pretty horrific code which adds salt to the wounds. but there also can be a sort of envy that emanates from the research side.…

This is STEM culture in general, the closer you get to the "pure sciences" the more nasty and harsh the environment is, and vice versa.

When you go far away from the humanities, you lose some humanity.

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Post by Kosirich »

Moru wrote: post #314
AlexMuir wrote: post #144

Took me right back one of many detentions I served at school, when Mr B Swales set us the challenge of finding a grammatically correct English sentence with five ands in a row. The answer was as follows: The landlord of the "Dog and Partridge" pub commissioned a signwriter to letter a new board outside. On looking at the work, the landlord declared that he liked the colour but would prefer more spacing between Dog an…

Swedish sort of joke-sentence you get to learn in school: "Far, får får får?" "Nej, får får inte får, får får lamm." English would be: "Father, does sheep get sheep?" "No, sheep does not get sheep, sheep gets lambs." No, google translate does not make it unscathed through that sentence :-)

For doing that on hard/impossible setting, try doing it in Danish as a foreigner. Every person in Denmark I discussed language with, at one point gives this example.

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Post by sharmavinu0024 »

kklisura wrote: post #55

``` TypeError: Cannot read properties of null (reading 'C') at Ccf ( https://docs.google.com/static/document/client/js/157553674-... ) at Bcf ( https://docs.google.com/static/document/client/js/157553674-... ) ``` Has something to do with grammar. The document does not fail when `Show grammar suggestion` is turned off.

google doc. is well used for typing.

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Post by saagarjha »

dorkwood wrote: post #311
kappuchino wrote: post #85

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try /s at the end of "offending" sentence, most people will look at it more kindly.

I'm surprised the SarcMark™ never took off: https://www.sarcmark.com/

I am incredibly upset by the difference in speed of writing the text and drawing the SarcMark.
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