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Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by munificent »

jjoonathan wrote: post #293
munificent wrote: post #182

> I stare at the page for a second. My brain hurts. I hate it. It felt... distracting, maximal, cluttered, weirdly transparent. Little sparkles animate over the page. > "How old are you?" I asked. > "Twenty-five." > "Of course you are." You will never, ever, ever do good design while holding your audience in contempt. They are fully and completely entitled to their aesthetic preferences and those preferences have abs…

This person wrote an entire blogpost on how to understand and compassionately design for Gen-Z aesthetics and your response is to slam them for... not understanding and compassionately designing for Gen-Z aesthetics? Come on.

The post I read was a person defensively justifying their choice to not design for Gen-Z aesthetics.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

falcor84 wrote: post #281
awb wrote: post #257

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I’d argue you should always design for yourself and build products you want. When your needs aren’t in alignment with your user’s needs then you’re the wrong person for the job anyway. User feedback is important for getting additional insights, but the implementation of the feedback should always feel correct to you too.

I like your sentiment, but I think this only works at the start. After the initial MVC phase, you discover additional potential target audiences, and often (but not always) it makes more sense to apply empathy and adapt the software to also benefit their needs, rather than just abandoning then as "not the intended audience".

MVC phase? That's where my projects end, not start... Betting that was MVP! (Actually they start there, too, to be honest)

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by joveian »

ryandrake wrote: post #271
cpcallen wrote: post #213

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I was wondering how long it would take before I saw someone advocating for webpage backgrounds to be grey again. Mosaic (and later Netscape) had the right idea from the start. It's only too bad it's taken so long for us to get back to where we started. Sincerely, an old curmudgeon. P.S.: Get off my lawn!

I want web page backgrounds to respect the defaults I set in the browser. Remember those settings? They are still in your browser but the first thing a web designer does nowadays is force background and font colors, text sizes, and so on, totally disregarding the user’s set preferences. Now get off MY lawn!

You can force a font and minimum font size at least in Firefox or set a default zoom level. One trick for anyone trying this is that English can be under Latin or Other and Firefox only allows this setting per writing system not overall (possibly some or all others can also be under two options similarly). Setting minimum font size does break some things (text in SVG diagrams being unreadable is the most common one I see) but I don't see how anyone can manage with the tiny fonts websites use. Zoom is less likely to break things I think but I don't like that it scales images.

I just checked and in Firefox you can also force text, background, and link colors. I imagine that breaks some things also.

Lots of websites load css from their CDN that is usually a CNAME, so a consolation prize of using uBlock Origin in advanced mode with CNAME decloaking and blocking third party sites by default is that text is often more readable (once you get to it, there is usually a bunch of extra random junk and only sometimes a "skip to content" link).

If light mode is too bright, it means your screen is too bright. It should be easy to fix.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by paledot »

blacksmith_tb wrote: post #322
falcor84 wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like your sentiment, but I think this only works at the start. After the initial MVC phase, you discover additional potential target audiences, and often (but not always) it makes more sense to apply empathy and adapt the software to also benefit their needs, rather than just abandoning then as "not the intended audience".

MVC phase? That's where my projects end, not start... Betting that was MVP! (Actually they start there, too, to be honest)

My projects seem to end at MVP.

(Which might have been the joke you were attempting to tell, while we're being pedantic.)

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Post by replygirl »

carlisle_ wrote: post #255
replygirl wrote: post #207

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there are people who have to sleep outside, you know

Did you reply to the wrong comment by chance?

no, i implied you're grandstanding about something insignificant because your compassion for humanity is superficial and conditioned on your ability to be noticed showing it off. if it was genuine you wouldn't have busted their balls for saying something that wasn't even mean, just crass in the way most of us are in real life.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by replygirl »

hef19898 wrote: post #305
replygirl wrote: post #201

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when the ui doesn't evolve with the user base, everyone in hawaii gets texted a nuclear emergency alert

If the UI takes precedence over funtionality you don't pass financial audits.

sounds like a reason to stick with intuit and microsoft

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Post by dylan604 »

raverbashing wrote: post #269
dylan604 wrote: post #44

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I blame Ritalin for this type of video, either someone took too much or needs to up their dosage. Visual graphix aside, it's just exhausting to listen to. Dude, take a breath, or at least allow your viewers to take one. Had to double check I didn't leave my YT player in faster than normal playback speed.

Ritalin? I blame some late Gen-Xer who got stuck in a basement and got too obcessed with gaining likes on the internet they just morphed into this one-weird-trick pony with their clipart coming exclusively from 90's Magazines that come with a CD kinda thing

Gen-Xers were slurping down Jolt Cola blasting MTV (when there was music) as they hacked the Gibson while building the internet! HACK THE PLANET!!!

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Post by saurik »

letitbeirie wrote: post #236
dvtrn wrote: post #136

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I thought it was "Zennial", but then again for the longest time I also thought the "millennials" were "Gen-Y" and that Billy Joel actually started the fire, so wtf do I even know anymore about what generations are called

Just to add to the confusion there's also "Xennial" which is pronounced exactly the same way but refers to people ~15 years older.

Huh: I always pronounced this one "ex-ennial".

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by evanelias »

0x0000000 wrote: post #162
prpl wrote: post #147

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not the first but definitely the largest, probably by two orders of magnitude

I don't think myspace ever had an order of magnitude more users than LiveJournal. Do you have any data to the contrary?

MySpace was massively larger than LiveJournal. In 2006, MySpace literally became the most visited website in the US, as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace (and I also recall it being mentioned quite a bit at the time).

For another comparison: NewsCorp acquired MySpace in 2005 for $580 million. Six Apart acquired LiveJournal in 2005 for just a few million, and sold it to SUP in 2007 for somewhere around $25 million if I recall correctly.

Disclosure: former Six Apart employee, although several years after the sale of LJ to SUP.

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