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Re: Huawei MatePad Paper – eInk Tablet

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Post by azinman2 »

system2 wrote: post #306
azinman2 wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

eInk displays aren’t cheap, then add in the pencil layer, cpu, etc

Yes, but it is not $500 expensive. LCD wasn't cheap but got 10 times cheaper in 15 years. eInk is around more than that yet still super expensive.

LCDs have massive scales of economy and endless investment into making their manufacturing cheap. I’d be surprised if eInk screens are even 1% of the quantity of LED/OLED/LCD screens out there. eInk may also be fundamentally harder to manufacture due do how it works (I’m not sure).

You also seem to be making the mistake that products should be priced according to their raw manufacturing costs. Not only is that ignoring engineering, marketing, legal, licensing and other costs, it’s also ignoring profit and trying to recoup investment on an initial product which itself is risky without knowing how well it will sell.

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Post by pasabagi »

philliphaydon wrote: post #279
pasabagi wrote: post #125

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That's ridiculous. Japan has a load of border disputes, and pacifism is literally written into their constitution. Most countries in east asia have them.

Japan claiming a few island is different to China claiming the whole south china sea and expanding its imaginary 9 dash line. So trying to bring Japan into this is just ridiculous.

... The whole point about claiming islands is that they include an EEZ (exclusive economic zone). That's how you claim a 'whole sea'.

Of course, the real reason people argue over islands because it gets idiots riled up (Abe and successors depend on the nationalist vote, Xi depends on the nationalist faction, etc) and because geography in the far east is a mess of contradictions, so it's easy to make a plausible claim.

Foreign people getting excited over it is like a whole new meta level of stupidity.

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Post by yumraj »

alexgao wrote: post #303
xibalba wrote: post #258

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Where is there genocide? Have you ever been to China, or do you just watch the propaganda of the media hostile to China?

Currently, Xinjiang. Past, Tibet.

> Have you ever been to China, or do you just watch the propaganda of the media hostile to China?

Have you ever been outside of China, or do you just watch media censored and approved by CCP?

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Post by xster »

tragictrash wrote: post #320
est wrote: post #291

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Caught putting chips in servers is as plausible as putting chips in masks.

After receiving this feedback, I went and reexamined this issue. It was reported by multiple outlets, but never corroborated. I sincerely apologize for perpetuating misinformation. I should have looked at this issue harder when it happened, and again before posting about it.

You're probably referring to the Bloomberg chip hack 2018 article that had no primary source, that was doubled down on and still has no source.

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Post by deepspace »

amiga1200 wrote: post #311

Serious question, as I am interested in this device. Huawei has lately been in the news as a security threat. How can I justify using this device, to myself and my company, given the security threat Huawei supposedly represents? No trolls or shills need reply.

I have had the same question about Huawei products, and have never received any answer that would justify the risk of using one of their devices.

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Post by philliphaydon »

pasabagi wrote: post #322
philliphaydon wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Japan claiming a few island is different to China claiming the whole south china sea and expanding its imaginary 9 dash line. So trying to bring Japan into this is just ridiculous.

... The whole point about claiming islands is that they include an EEZ (exclusive economic zone). That's how you claim a 'whole sea'. Of course, the real reason people argue over islands because it gets idiots riled up (Abe and successors depend on the nationalist vote, Xi depends on the nationalist faction, etc) and because geography in the far east is a mess of contradictions, so it's easy to make a plausible claim…

Good thing I’m not a foreign people.

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Post by einpoklum »

netizen-936824 wrote: post #168
hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #155

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Well, the difference between Kindle Paperwhite and Oasis is just one inch - but you need to pay twice as much. You could say only the former is subsidized - but wouldn't it be in Amazon's best interest to make reading experience more comfortable?

Its in Amazon's best interest to offer either convenience or lower price, which is what they do at the cost of treating labor poorly and harvesting usage data. It's comfort and convenience subsidized through suffering

> Its in Amazon's best interest to offer either convenience or lower price, which is what they do

Not necessary. AFAIK, it is very often the case they just force vendors to not offer lower prices elsewhere, or else face non-promotion on Amazon, reducing sales significantly.

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Post by zibzab »

rvbissell wrote: post #255
horsawlarway wrote: post #235

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> Like syncing local notes using common cloud services? Technically this is present on the Remarkable if you're willing to fiddle with the device some. They give you root by default (and provide an ssh service if the device is connected over usb), and the community has implemented quite a few syncing options. That said - I was also very bummed to see them introduce the paid service. I'd really like them to succeed by…

On my android devices, squelching unwanted notifications feels like whack-a-mole. I haven't been tracking it exactly, but it feels like various updated apps keep inventing new categories of notifications to get around my previous de-selections. Clarification: the above are apps for which I still want /useful/ notifications, so I can't disable all notifications for them out-right.

If that happens, it's probably by design and a good sign that you should find a better app.

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Post by robinsoh »

azinman2 wrote: post #321
system2 wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but it is not $500 expensive. LCD wasn't cheap but got 10 times cheaper in 15 years. eInk is around more than that yet still super expensive.

LCDs have massive scales of economy and endless investment into making their manufacturing cheap. I’d be surprised if eInk screens are even 1% of the quantity of LED/OLED/LCD screens out there. eInk may also be fundamentally harder to manufacture due do how it works (I’m not sure). You also seem to be making the mistake that products should be priced according to their raw manufacturing costs. Not only is that ignori…

> I’d be surprised if eInk screens are even 1% of the quantity of LED/OLED/LCD screens out there. eInk may also be fundamentally harder to manufacture due do how it works (I’m not sure).

You are correct. 2021 alone would have sold well over a billion smartphones each with a display, OLED or LCD.

2021 was a banner year for ebook readers and yet I'd doubt they even reached 10 million units worldwide.

Electrophoretics just doesn't get investment because plainly speaking, the physics limits what it can do, and so nobody wants to invest big money into it. You'll see startups come and go, picking up maybe a 100 mil here and there and then burning out. That's even true across other display tech. Liquavista died. Qualcomm mirasol died.

You want improvement, somebody has to risk big money.

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Post by webmaven »

yesbut wrote: post #189
webmaven wrote: post #166

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> The US would still be required to abide by the Fourth Amendment though. Only directly. The Five Eyes and other 'partners' routinely share intelligence with each other that their counterparts would face barriers to collecting.

So why am I worried about China again?

I don't know, there are many possible answers. Why ARE you worried about China?
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