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Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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It means prepare for the right to deny services to the left. Right owned companies. Prepare for power to be used against you when we have it. AG, president, senate, regulatory agencies.

Which services well be denied to the left? I'm also curious about your plans for regulatory agencies.

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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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The blatant misinformation is this thread is astounding. If you think this is “just a protest”, you don’t live in Ottawa and have no clue what’s going on If you think vaccines are being forced on anyone, you have no clue what’s going on in Canada. If you think GFM planned to “steal” the money, you clearly have no clue that the organizer’s plan called for excess funds to be given to charities. The comments in this thr…

Define “forced.” Your answer will speak volumes.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Even if you are vaccinated you can still get sick. The chances are reduced, but you can still end up in hospital, you could still die. If enough people still get sick at once there could still be a collapse in a local health system due to overloading. Given the uncertainty with new variations of COVID isn't it better to err on the side of caution and try to protect both the health systems and as many people at once?

All of that was true with the flu and vaccinated people are not any more at risk from covid than flu. Why the permanent change?

In fact, the UK health authorities argued that flu vaccine mandates make more sense for hospital workers than covid vaccine mandates with omicron.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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It is literally, by every definition, an occupation. People came in and brought homes with them (sleeper cabs, RVs, etc). Now they have set up permanent structures such as kitchens and other facilities (today they brought in a sauna), and have been stating repeatedly that they are in for the long haul. There is a reason that's called an occupation. A protest is normally a discomfort for the protester. Enduring the el…

GoFundMe literally had no problem with CHAZ/CHOP and BLM protest funding in the middle of a pandemic.

So we agree, GFM should have nothing to do with any occupation, right? You agree with this, correct?

You think that I'm some sort of partisan in this -- perhaps a projection -- and you caught me in hypocrisy. But you didn't. Financing protests is an incredibly dangerous game.

I was against BLM justified violence and looting, as well as the various "free" zones.

I was against the railway blockades in Canada (due to complex aboriginal issues)

I am against the trucker occupations and criminal harassment of the citizens of Ottawa and other jurisdictions (and I think they should be layered with so many fines their trucks become the property of the state).

I'm remarkably consistent on this. Law and order is good. Democracy is good.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Oxford definition: "an earlier event or action that is regarded as an example or guide to be considered in subsequent similar circumstances."

The operative word there is "similar."

Yes, similar as in "if we don't do that, insert_whatever_crazy_idea_here, we're gonna overwhelm the hospitals!!!"

Because it's been the justification from day 1: "not overwhelm hospitals".

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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I'm concerned about 1st amendment and the soft power politicians have on freedom of speech (yes I know this is in Canada). When the head politician of a country essentially calls your group terrorist, wouldn't that put some pressure on social media or other organizations to restrict access, money or censor speech? Not all violations of free speech are literally police sending someone to jail for saying something. If…

Yeah, we do not have what you think of in terms of freedom of speech in Canada. A private corporation using their insured property to audibly harass a city and blockade streets is not considered freedom of speech in Canada. Take away their toys and let them hold a protest with their boots and parkas.

Why does the insurance status of property matter? Why does it matter if it belongs to a corporation (also don’t many truckers have their own trucks)? Do you also think megaphones shouldn’t be used to protest? What about amplifying platforms like Twitter? I feel like the line drawn in Canada is unprincipled, if it is as you describe, since truckers are using their property and platform of choice to enhance their protest, which fundamentally isn’t very different to me.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Public health “experts” have done very little to quell fearful vaccinated people. In my opinion some of the worst anti-vaxx propaganda comes right from these health departments. If you are vaccinated, you are done with the pandemic. Morally, ethically, and practically. You should be allowed to return to actual, pre-pandemic normal. End of story.

Even if you are vaccinated you can still get sick. The chances are reduced, but you can still end up in hospital, you could still die. If enough people still get sick at once there could still be a collapse in a local health system due to overloading. Given the uncertainty with new variations of COVID isn't it better to err on the side of caution and try to protect both the health systems and as many people at once?

Everything you said is fantasy speculation. Counties and States that have moved on are doing just fine.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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The vaccine isn’t being forced on anyone. Body autonomy is no more being violated here than any other time in history where vaccines have been required to do certain things, of which there are many examples. Not to mention, all the things you listed at the start of your comment have been done by the Ottawa occupiers. I don’t like to call them truckers because most are not, and most truckers are against this occupatio…

Take it or get fired. That is being forced for all intents and purposes. Shaq said it well: https://twitter.com/ginacarano/status/1489421001918083073

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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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GoFundMe should be political neutral, but it openly turns left. I recommend a long post explaining this phenomenon: https://richardhanania.substack.com/p/why-is-everything-libe...

It’s a private company, it absolutely does not need to be neutral. They can choose any side they want. If you don’t like it, don’t use their platform. Gosh, when did the notion of private firms got so mixed up with so-called political neutrality? Are people this naïve?

>Gosh, when did the notion of private firms got so mixed up with so-called political neutrality? Are people this naïve?

When all speech, commerce, and art became transmitted by the permission of a small number of private firms whose combined powers exceed that of any nation-state.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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The thing is BLM protesters broke laws. They started fires, destroyed businesses, trapped drivers in tunnels, attacked police, set fires in people’s homes, and declared an autonomous zone that claimed to secede from the country - and this is just from my city. GoFundMe happily allowed them to be funded while Facebook and Twitter happily allowed them to organize. Driving trucks and using the roads as they are meant to…

The vaccine isn’t being forced on anyone. Body autonomy is no more being violated here than any other time in history where vaccines have been required to do certain things, of which there are many examples. Not to mention, all the things you listed at the start of your comment have been done by the Ottawa occupiers. I don’t like to call them truckers because most are not, and most truckers are against this occupatio…

Really? They've attacked police and burned people's homes? Seceded? I've not been following the news much, but I haven't seen this.
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