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Re: Tell HN: Salary data is for sale

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Post by pjmlp »

Simon_O_Rourke wrote: post #290
pjmlp wrote: post #264

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In countries where unions exist for everyone on the building, everyone knows what everyone else is earning. Additionally, in most European countries we don't have a culture of hidding our salaries from each other.

There wasn't too much salary sharing when I worked in Germany, in fact, it was the usual "keep everyone in the dark" approach from HR.

If the company signs the yearly tarif agreement done between the government and unions, everyone knows what someone at Tarif XYZ is earning.

You don't need a public list from HR, and almost everyone will answer when asked "do you mind telling me...".

Surely there are people that will answer that they rather not, so far I haven't bumped in such people so far.

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Post by dumpsterdiver »

gostsamo wrote: post #310
dumpsterdiver wrote: post #280

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I've had pretty good success being completely honest about my salary requirements. A 10% raise just won't cut for me, because I care about my team. The only way I'm willing to leave is for a % raise, and comparable benefits. Edit: I'm probably biased, because I've been shown a lot of love the past few years by my current employer, in the form of money.

Those were example numbers. The key part is the asimetric information: the new company knows your rock bottom, while you have no way to know their upper limit.

Yeah, I get it, and you're not wrong - you'll probably end up with a higher salary operating that way. It's just not for me. I've already reached my "good enough" salary (the hard way), and at this point I'm more focused on what I can give back.

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Post by Banditoz »

teraflop wrote: post #140
pianoben wrote: post #9

"To log in, enter your SSN, date of birth, home address, and" No way, no how.

I dutifully entered everything they asked for, because, you know, they're Equifax and they undoubtedly have it already. Then they said I needed a "verification code" and gave me the option of half a dozen phone numbers and email addresses to choose from... none of which remotely resembled anything I've ever had (the email addresses all contained my surname and appeared to be randomly generated). When I clicked the "n…

For me, the domain at the end of the email it wanted to send a verification code to seemed to belong to my company.

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

exdsq wrote: post #252
sillysaurusx wrote: post #243

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$200/hr as a full time ML consultant. Contracting is interesting. You make more, but there’s more downside. No sick days. Though the last 3 month contract was kind enough to calculate the start and end dates to be exactly 12 work weeks (60 work days, skipping holidays) which was a nice Jedi mind trick. I still don’t get paid for Christmas, but somehow it doesn’t feel like I’m losing a day since the end date was exten…

Out of interest what’s your cv look like for that rate?

It’s what I’ve charged for consulting and I only have 3.5 years of experience since graduating college. I’m salaried now, though.

Salary is $200k/yr with 1% stake in the company (0.5% early exercised - nothing vested yet).

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Post by throwntoday »

Pixeleen wrote: post #299
staunch wrote: post #115

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When I submit the myprivacy.equifax.com validation it hangs at "Processing..." indefinitely. #AbolishCreditAgencies

Credit, bank checking (ChexSystems), and personal information aggregators like Lexis Nexis and Thomson Reuters Clear ought to be abolished or curbed indeed. I hate to bring trans politics into this. I'm sure that's the last thing anybody wants to hear about right now. However we are a class of people whose sexuality can be unfairly identified by these databases.

>I hate to bring trans politics into this. I'm sure that's the last thing anybody wants to hear about right now.

You're right. Too bad it didn't stop you from doing it anyway.

Re: Tell HN: Salary data is for sale

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Post by x86_64Ubuntu »

sio8ohPi wrote: post #284
geoduck14 wrote: post #202

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>But, I didn't opt in for them to have this information about me to begin with. Everyone is up in arms about Facebook and Google collecting our information... meanwhile credit bureaus are sitting in the shadows giggling to themselves

Well yeah -- did you think it was somehow about consumer rights? Democrats and Republicans alike want to use the threat of regulation and anti-trust action to force social media companies to adopt moderation policies favorable to them. They both recognize (IMO correctly) that they must make these threats; principled adherence to economic liberty leaves one without leverage and is likely to result in companies simply…

I don't think it's a both sides issue. Regulating social media companies for a politically favorable environment is largely a Republican adventure.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/12/01/texas-social-media-l...

https://www.flgov.com/2021/05/24/governor-ron-desantis-signs...

Re: Tell HN: Salary data is for sale

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Post by lvncelot »

Pixeleen wrote: post #299
staunch wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I submit the myprivacy.equifax.com validation it hangs at "Processing..." indefinitely. #AbolishCreditAgencies

Credit, bank checking (ChexSystems), and personal information aggregators like Lexis Nexis and Thomson Reuters Clear ought to be abolished or curbed indeed. I hate to bring trans politics into this. I'm sure that's the last thing anybody wants to hear about right now. However we are a class of people whose sexuality can be unfairly identified by these databases.

> I hate to bring trans politics into this. I'm sure that's the last thing anybody wants to hear about right now.

I'm glad you did, as I hadn't thought about that since it isn't part of my day-to-day experience.

Re: Tell HN: Salary data is for sale

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Post by nopenopenopeno »

randmeerkat wrote: post #266
imglorp wrote: post #220

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Their customers are happy. And that means Congress is kept happy. You are not their customer and Congress doesn't care if you are happy.

This is what crony capitalism looks like.

It’s also what regular capitalism looks like.
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