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PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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I actually want the kind of UI chromium provides, where I can see from the background color directly in which "mode" I'm in. This makes it easier to separate work from non-work.

That's exactly what Firefox containers do. I have a different color for each one.

I've used containers and I feel what they do is not exactly what I want. I actually want a separate instance of the whole browser.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Well what if you have a profile on the site where you've put your interests or gender or something?

It would be kinda hard for an individual web site to develop a meaningful profile of you. The major exception to this is Facebook where they profile you based on your personal posts and activity as well as all your friends. Facebook and Google have a global reach. They have trackers and profilers on about 80% of the web sites.

? Every social media other than FB?

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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It would be kinda hard for an individual web site to develop a meaningful profile of you. The major exception to this is Facebook where they profile you based on your personal posts and activity as well as all your friends. Facebook and Google have a global reach. They have trackers and profilers on about 80% of the web sites.

? Every social media other than FB?

Google and Facebook have a global reach that few others can duplicate. Google has trackers on 80% of web sites and probably 80% of phones too since Android is completed compromised by them. With all this data, they may know you better than you know yourself.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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i love everything about multi-account containers except when it comes managing two google accounts (for work and personal). I can never get them to work proeprly with the number of redirects and whatnot. not sure who to blame here but i hope Firefox comes up with a fix soon.

It would be better to create two profiles in firefox to separate work and personal. And both can be started at the same in two different browser instances if you like.

will try that approach. thanks for the idea.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Just boycott Chrome, as a user and as a developer. And boycott any other Chromium-based browser altogether. The only reason why a mediocre ads company like Google is managing to mess up the web is that it has >90% of the browser's market share, if you include all Chromium-based browsers. If they can periodically break the basic functionalities of web extensions however they like (HTTP calls within extensions, backgro…

I’ve been a long term chrome user. What’s a good alternative browser you’d recommend?

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Just boycott Chrome, as a user and as a developer. And boycott any other Chromium-based browser altogether. The only reason why a mediocre ads company like Google is managing to mess up the web is that it has >90% of the browser's market share, if you include all Chromium-based browsers. If they can periodically break the basic functionalities of web extensions however they like (HTTP calls within extensions, backgro…

I’ve been a long term chrome user. What’s a good alternative browser you’d recommend?

Firefox. I switched on all of my machines, MacOS and Windows, a few years ago and rarely have any issues. I was expecting it to be a rough ride based on what I hear around the internet but it was quite the opposite: seamless.

As with most things you'll hear comments on HN with both sides liking and hating it but I never experience the terribleness that comes from those that say it sucks. I also don't mind switching to Chrome when I absolutely have to.

edit: I also use FF on Android and I will admit it has a few more issues than it has on my PC, but nothing that is bad enough to make me use Chrome.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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> It seems reasonable to require a static list for privacy reasons. It's rich to cite privacy reasons for not allowing the blocking of ad sites whose goal is to spy on you.

The privacy advantage is not giving extensions access to what domains you are browsing. The extension declares a static list but doesn't know what did/did not match. Because if the extension knows what URLs you're accessing, and can send that data somewhere, that's a major privacy concern. So this makes sense and seems good for privacy. But if it breaks uBlock Origin significantly, that seems like a very bad thing.

It’s a good theory, but it will still be possible to get an event for every single item that gets loaded. All they removed was the ability to block individual loads in that event. It is still entirely possible to collect that list of urls and snitch on the user.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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One of the interesing things about this story is that there appears to be no consideration of not "updating" to a new Chrome version. The idea of user choice in "updating" is completely absent. Why cannot a user say, "V3 sounds wonderful but I will stick with V2, thank you." A user has a version of a program that works for that user (e.g., with uBlock Origin), and Google can apparently forcibly stop that user from us…

I vehemently disagree with the big G edicts here but to put forth an argument that automatic updates to a known user software tool is THE problem in an era where automatic updates have reduced the attack footprint for a variety of applications is... confusing. As 'anti-choice' as it may appear (AND IS) automatic updates for net connected software is how we have improved the general base level of security for the net. Unfortunately that has been completely dependent on providers of widely used software focusing on security and brand image over self serving interests. Nothing has ever prevented these companies from doing what could be considered the "wrong thing" over the right thing to date and, in general, blocking updates would be the wrong thing. With that said (written).... A project like this with an (mostly) open code base should have a veto mechanism to push the developers towards a different solution when something like this comes up.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Are people really that adamant about blocking ads on the web? I don't understand why people think it's a good idea to remove the primary source of revenue for content creators. At the most it amounts to a very mild annoyance and ads also help small businesses to grow. Edit: I'd appreciate it if someone could respond to the points I made rather than simply complain about why they don't like ads.

We have more than too much content right now, and in my mind the tracking and ads means that the “free” content is not worth the price. I’d rather there be less content if it meant no tracking.
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