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Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers

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Re: Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers

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I prefer to work with a single large external monitor. If my device is a laptop I keep it in clamshell mode when attached to an external monitor. I find switching applications with keyboard shortcuts and focusing on one thing at a time has improved my productivity. Using two or more monitors made it so easy for me to get distracted. To each their own though.

I work with the KDE virtual desktops grid with a 3x2 arrangement and wrap around on a 32" curved screen. I've found it very useful to put the same windows in the same grid squares and have hotkeys to easily go between. I know exactly the keystrokes ahead of time to get to the window I want and don't have to move my neck to get there. I can tile them, since I've got plenty of space on the one large screen, but usually…

That's pretty much exactly my setup. On top of that I make sure I can do most important things with just my left hand: I use Ctrl+F1/2/3 as is default in KDE (Firefox on F1, editor of F2 usually), but then I rebind stuff to the Windows key: Win+W maximises a window, Win+A tiles to the left and Win+S tiles right. Kinda unrelated, but I also rebind Konsole's "Clear Scrollback and Reset" to Ctrl+Shift+X because I use it before running compilers and stuff, so I can easily find the actual start of the command's output.

Re: Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers

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For coding, document editing etc. a 5x1 portrait monitor wall is just about perfect (for me). It does make it harder to play games or watch movies but for a work machine that's kind of a plus.

I do want one of those big shiny new curved widescreens though.

Re: Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers

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Bad response times plague the mobile space too. Just look at the new MBP with its 120hz display that has >40ms latency. But Mac displays, though looking gorgeous, have always had latency that was heavily perceptible. Is there even a mainstream desktop display that has anywhere near the latency of Macs?

>40ms latency is insane if true. Got a source?

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-16-2021-M1-P...

The black to white latency is over 90ms, which is quite funny to me.

Macs have always been horrific for latency - I can always see the delay between me pressing a key and the letter appearing. But, I can also see iPhone OLED displays flick on and off due to their low frequency PWM, so this might be unusual pickiness from me.

Re: Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers

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For years I ran triple monitors side by side. Then I tried dual widescreen monitors stacked vertically. This has been game changing. It is much easier on my neck to look up 10 deg vs turning sideways 45 deg I can split VC code into three columns on my main monitor, then have two zones in the top monitor for other apps. 10/10.

Where does the webcam go?

I have two 27" monitors and got a webcam between them. It works well if you aren't bothered by the hard border between monitors.

Re: Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers

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This is interesting but the author considers only one degree of freedom, "roll". Equally important are "pitch" and "yaw". "pitch" is necessary to accommodate another kind of rotation, known in HCI as "slouch". "yaw" is important because sometimes your code is so elegant and impressive, that you need people walking by to see it more than you need to see it yourself. You use yaw to rotate your monitor away, toward the…

I know that you are writing in jest, but the very concept that any amount of slouching is tolerable to someone in this profession should be outrageous. We spend decades deforming our backs to sit in chairs. The least we can do is to promote the idea of an international "Insufficiently Ergonomic Office Chair Bonfire Day".

Sit with your butt on the edge of your chair (don't use the back rest at all) ... Your back will be naturally straight and your core muscles will gain endurance. I learned this by using an exercise ball as a chair for six months.

Re: Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers

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Wearing glasses for 12 hours a day after never wearing them can be a difficult adjustment to make.

an easier adjustment than not being able to see.

In a sense, yes - but even after adjusting to glasses for 20+ years I still find it far more fatiguing than working without glasses.

I’ve tried all kinds of things but my eyes are bad at working through glasses.

Re: Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers

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I know that you are writing in jest, but the very concept that any amount of slouching is tolerable to someone in this profession should be outrageous. We spend decades deforming our backs to sit in chairs. The least we can do is to promote the idea of an international "Insufficiently Ergonomic Office Chair Bonfire Day".

Sit with your butt on the edge of your chair (don't use the back rest at all) ... Your back will be naturally straight and your core muscles will gain endurance. I learned this by using an exercise ball as a chair for six months.

That's nonsense, I'm perfectly capable of slouching without the assistance of a back rest.

Re: Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers

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I don't understand why 3:2 and 16:10 have taken over the mobile space but if I want one for my desktop my choices are 1920x1200 or a thirty inch, thousand dollar monstrosity with bad response times.

If you’re in Europe, or are willing to attempt to import, the Huawei MateView is a brilliant 3:2 4K panel.

Brilliant? As I recall it has light bleed issues and doesn't even let you adjust the color balance.

Re: Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers

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Tall monitors must be hard on the neck if you frequently need to see the top half of it. The ergonomic recommendation is keeping the monitors at eye level. How do you deal with that?

The top of my tall monitor is level with the top of my landscape monitor. So I look down to see the bottom of my tall monitor, straight ahead to see the top of either. I also have one overhead monitor to glance up at for reference or other pages. 80% of my work is done on my main monitor. 15% on the tall. 5% on the overhead. The overhead is still very useful though.

I'm glad you have this setup.. I have resisted the urge to get an ultra wide monitor.

I really want to know how it would feel to have one narrow edge on the physical desk, with the long curve of the display arching up overhead.

Re: Ideal Monitor Rotation for Programmers

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The thing that you want was around in the 90s already, and it's called multiple windows without tabs.

Yes but unfortunately that doesn't really work for heavy applications today. That would mean like 50 independent memory-hungry firefox or IDE processes corresponding to every tab/file you might have open. The entire point is to decouple a window from the resources/host process that controls the window.

multiple browser windows are not different resource-wise than multiple tabs, you are still running against same instance of the browser.

The other benefit of leaving window (and tab) managerment to the OS is that tabs switching should also better, imagine your tabs show up in the OS switcher and you can look them up in spotlight or something.

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