Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

I resigned from Twitter

twitter.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

321–330 of 1001 posts

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#321

Post by toomuchtodo »

busterarm wrote: post #290
jcadam wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it can be fixed. Social media in general is a cancer.

Social media can be fixed by legislating it out of existence. It doesn't even need a watchdog agency like the environment does.

Remove Section 230 protections for profit driven social networks, carve out exemptions for public goods and other sites operated without a profit intent (Wikipedia, the Internet Archive, Hacker News, etc) and the problem solves itself (the cost to police/moderate the platform rises above a point where the revenue returned is no longer sufficient to make the endeavor worthwhile). Social media is toxic due to the social fabric impact being externalized and socialized while the profits are privatized.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#322

Post by fullshark »

nostromo wrote: post #232
danschumann wrote: post #219

Twitter made me feel: some combination of violated, indignant, numb, inferior, empty, powerless, disappointed, embarassed, furious, annoyed, and infuriated.

May I ask why you used it then?

Why do political junkies keep the outrage drip going? Some combination of philosophical purpose, self-flattery, comfort amid chaos, and sometimes enlightenment.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#323

Post by shadowgovt »

systemvoltage wrote: post #238
danschumann wrote: post #219

Twitter made me feel: some combination of violated, indignant, numb, inferior, empty, powerless, disappointed, embarassed, furious, annoyed, and infuriated.

Twitter and largely social media encourages echo chambers. I try to be a contrarian on HN but in some threads, especially around social justice and political threads, it definitely has a tendency to become one. When 10 people are agreeing vicariously and there is a sense that any dissent is crushed, time to be the person playing devil’s advocate and challenge them. This can happen in a small context and it usually is…

It is entirely possible for the experiment of putting every user in the network into a giant echo chamber with relatively low walls, no real concept of "subtopics" or "forums," and no moderation but self-moderation (which does not scale when thousands of individuals choose to spend a scant five of their seconds haranguing you)...

... can fail. As in, there's no guarantee the system so designed is good, or healthy, or net-gain valuable.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#324

Post by xwdv »

juancampa wrote: post #236
danschumann wrote: post #219

Twitter made me feel: some combination of violated, indignant, numb, inferior, empty, powerless, disappointed, embarassed, furious, annoyed, and infuriated.

Here's a tip on how to make the best out of Twitter: unfollow anyone that makes you feel that way. Think about it, it's not Twitter per se, it's the people you follow, and that's under your control.

I did this, and in the end – I quit.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#325

Post by gigglesupstairs »

ryzvonusef wrote: post #30
uptown wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"This whole thing is so bizarre" Why? He's been a part-time CEO whose focus has clearly been on Square. Having a full-time CEO focused on a company with as high a profile as Twitter makes a lot of sense.

the method of announcement not the actual contents. There was an investor group keep on kicking Dorsey out so that's not strange. But to have it announced like this on a random Monday morning before start of markets, and not even a proper presser from the board("Twitter did not respond to a request for comment."), but a "leak" by a reporter... TF is going on?

Well, this is how breaking news are usually broken in tidbits as they come in. Similar lingo too. Timing is suspect but by the looks of it they were correct and had limited information at the time.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#327

Post by nix0n »

mschuster91 wrote: post #122
bhouston wrote: post #41

Twitter under Jack Dorsey has been a huge cryptocurrency promotion engine. I wonder if that remains.

Other than adding mandatory 2FA and introducing a 24-hour time delay on account renames and 2 hours on profile name/image changes (which should be a given for any blue-check account), what else can Twitter realistically do given that the other side (crypto pumpers) has literally tons of money floating around?

> the other side (crypto pumpers) has literally tons of money floating around

No they don't, they put it all into crypto.

Twitter welcomes bots (and other ways for many accounts to be run by few real people) because they want to increase their Monthly Active User count.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#328

Post by shadowgovt »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #321
busterarm wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Social media can be fixed by legislating it out of existence. It doesn't even need a watchdog agency like the environment does.

Remove Section 230 protections for profit driven social networks, carve out exemptions for public goods and other sites operated without a profit intent (Wikipedia, the Internet Archive, Hacker News, etc) and the problem solves itself (the cost to police/moderate the platform rises above a point where the revenue returned is no longer sufficient to make the endeavor worthwhile). Social media is toxic due to the socia…

Sadly, the solution so described amounts to nationalizing free speech (between the removal of protections and the "blessing" of some few channels).

Wouldn't fly in the US, so it's a non-starters since those companies are based in the US.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#329

Post by nostromo »

koheripbal wrote: post #234
riffic wrote: post #151

Looks like activist investors are getting their Christmas wish this year. Twitter's not immune from ending up on this list (on a long enough timeline): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_social_network...

The issue with Dorsey is that he acknowledges how toxic Twitter is, but has no idea how to fix it nor did he seem ready to do so, and this made investors very nervous. See his recent interview on CNN : https://www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/2100868666791589/

His directness and ability to say what he doesn't know is a good thing.

I enjoyed his interview with Sam Harris. He was honest and direct in answering tough questions about Twitter. He explained how they try to balance free expression but also want Twitter to be a safe place for people to interact.

Compare this to Zuckerberg who is never candid or forthright in public.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

#330

Post by samwillis »

datameta wrote: post #309
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. If your responsibilities are limited to calling some shots and coming up with some wild ideas here and there, and having the money to make it happen, you don't need to focus on things as much. Anyway the guy's a wreck and wrecking ball, I wouldn't be surprised if he disappears or takes a step back for a while soonish. Tesla's stonks will crash, etc.

He's gonna run his body into the ground before he even thinks about leaving SpaceX for anything else. It is his life's mission, that much is obvious to those who have seen enough candid interviews. He doesn't talk about anything else with the same level of importance.

Same reason SpaceX won't go public if he can help it (and why Starlink is critical for a revenue stream). He needs to maintain complete control in order to put people on Mars.
Post reply on HN