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Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by punkbuster »

rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

Because modern PC gaming anticheat software is worse than malware. They analyze everything you every do on your PC. They scan and upload your personal files.

If I have to have a separate machine for gaming to have some privacy I'm going to just buy a console.

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Post by slimbods »

rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

Want to game? Sit on sofa, press 1 button, game.

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Post by [deleted] »

stordoff wrote: post #17
BossingAround wrote: post #6

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> Fail0verflow have stated in the past that Jailbroken consoles are not worth it anymore since they are so close to computers in features and functionality Interesting. I don't own a PS5, but Xbox seems to be pretty much a PC [1] (weeeell, like a Chromecast-style PC anyways). The main reason to legitimately jailbreak a PS4 back in the day was to get back the Linux functionality Sony took away from its users, and to r…

> The main reason to legitimately jailbreak a PS4 back in the day was to get back the Linux functionality Sony took away from its users That was the PS3, through the OtherOS feature[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OtherOS

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Re: Playstation 5 root keys obtained

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Post by [deleted] »

rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

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Post by aloisklink »

tpxl wrote: post #187
SirHound wrote: post #174

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I believe consoles are indeed cheaper because 1. they can be sold at a loss (whether or not they actually are now, they have been historically) as the manufacturers make that back on games 2. they bulk order components and package/market them as a single piece. I much prefer gaming on consoles because I can't be bothered with all the mental overhead that comes with PC gaming. Like most of us I don't have much time. I…

Looks like what you're describing is at least partially implemented in Steam Big Picture mode. > Big Picture is a mode of Steam designed for use with your TV and game controller, so you can enjoy your Steam games from the comfort of your couch. With the press of a button, Steam displays a full-screen user interface which has been completely redesigned for readability and interaction on TV. It can also be used on your…

There's also the [Steam Link app][1], if you have an Android TV.

[1]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.valvesoftw...

You just need to install the app on your Android TV/TV box, and if you've got a fast intranet connection, you can stream Steam games from your desktop/laptop PC via your Android TV (it also works on Android tablets/phones, but you'd probably need a high-end WiFi router).

The input latency might hurt for action games, especially since TVs tend to have pretty bad latency already compared to computer monitors. And, loads of Android TVs aren't very powerful; I've seen quite a few struggle with even the Netflix app, so I doubt streaming 4K 60FPS games with low latency will work well.

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Post by goldcd »

SirHound wrote: post #288
lewispollard wrote: post #259

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Yup, you can also set up Steam to launch Big Picture mode at Windows boot, if you wanted to use the computer exclusively for gaming, and in addition, it's currently the best way to use a game controller on Windows, since when running in Big Picture it takes over all game controllers with its own input wrapper, which makes nearly any game controller work in a unified way with completely configurable controls. This is…

Surely you still have to enter your Windows password with a keyboard?

If this really mattered, you could use a Logitech Brio to sign you in with Windows Hello

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Post by salamandersauce »

AltruisticGapHN wrote: post #228
teamonkey wrote: post #160

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> Consoles are on their last run in my opinion. I've heard that for every console generation for the last 15 years. I don't think the arguments are any stronger now than they were in 2013.

Two big reasons why things are different: 1) with Valve's Steam Deck and the console-like experience for the Store on their Steam OS, PC GAMING is going to reach a broader market : you no longer need to install Windows, figure out driver updates or even how to use Windows, etc. in order to benefit from STEAM. edit: I have seen these type of gamers in the reddit discussions : they know about PC GAMING, they want a par…

Sales are IME just as good on console as steam. And to semi-confirm I took a look at few big recentish titles and one older one and using websites like Steamdb and psndeals recorded the lowest price (non-PS+) for my region (CAN).

Deus Ex Mankind Divided: PSN: $5.99, Steam: $5.24

Mortal Kombat 11: PSN: $17.49 Steam: $17.49

Call of Duty 4 Remastered: PSN: $19.99 Steam: 24.99

Far Cry 5: PSN: $11.99 Steam: $11.99

Resident Evil 4: PS3: $4.99 PS4: $9.99 Steam: $4.99

Oh and for whatever reason PSN doesn't charge taxes in my region but Steam does so PSN is actually 15% cheaper.

Obviously this is just a tiny sample of games I could think of and more comparison could be done but IME PC prices are not significantly lower if at all. Humble Bundles might be an exception on a per game basis but you also get a lot of crap you may not have otherwise bought...

Games go on sale on PSN/Live/eShop all the time, every weekend and week there's usually something. Might not be the best deal ever on a game but that applies to Steam too.

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Post by ThatPlayer »

apatheticonion wrote: post #263
maccard wrote: post #170

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> console exclusives are a real kick in the teeth. Console exclusives are often funded by manufacturers, so the game may not exist without the console.

I am naive to the economics of it but I imagine they could also choose to act as publishers where they take a cut of sales on all platforms. I believe their objective is to entice people to buy the console on the basis that it has better games than the competition - not all together bad - but as someone who likes video games I would like them to find another way to compete.

To me the issue is that games aren't required to release on all consoles. Nor should they be required to be, because that goes against the whole idea of free market competition: if all games are required to be released on Xbox, what is stopping Xbox from hiking up their prices? Paying developers for exclusives is the opposite and is competition.

"If you build it they will come", doesn't work. Look at the PS Vita, which very quickly stopped getting Sony support for games and languished. It shouldn't be up to all game developers to release on Vita, it is up to Sony to attract developers.

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Post by aloisklink »

maccard wrote: post #159
haunter wrote: post #93

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- Cheaper than a gaming PC. Of course it depends on your setup but for the same price ($500 MSRP) it would be hard to build a decent rig that plays the current gen new games perfectly - It just works. Games can have bugs but no hassle with installation, drivers etc. Games are more or less better optimzed because all the devs are working on the same hardware. No 100s different CPU and GPU. And one operating system - E…

It just works is a huge one. Driver issues and OS versions are such a huge pain even now. Many games require brand new drivers (which very often very very unstable), and the MS store required your windows version to be up to date, and everyone has their story about windows update being stuck for months on end. That's before you get into the "openness" of PC - if you want to play a game on steam but your friend has bo…

DRM too is also a pain.

The new Alder Lake CPUs apparently breaks a bunch of games, since their DRM thinks that the new Intel efficiency-cores are a second PC trying to play on the same license.

Some games will only work if you upgrade to Windows 11, and all games should work if you find a BIOS option and enable it, but only some CPUs support that BIOS option.

Source: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/11/faulty-drm-breaks-doz...

And there's also all the other older horror stories of DRM, like the Denuvo DRM adding a huge performance hit on some games. Or not being able to play your offline single-player games at all, since the Denuvo DRM servers have temporarily offline due to a DNS issue.

(Disclaimer, despite all the issues, I do personally prefer PC gaming over console gaming, but I'm biased that I already have a powerful PC for CUDA/C++ programming and development, so I've already spent a bunch of money and time into PCs already).

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