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Post by Arathorn »

tut-urut-utut wrote: post #18

Facebook down, WhatsApp down, but Signal still works. Time for a change? EDIT: Yes, Signal is not federated, but that's what people are at least ready to consider as a WhatsApp alternative. I also created Matrix / Element account, and had 0 contacts using it already.

The reason contacts don't tend to show up on Matrix/Element is because we don't push the user into sharing their addressbooks given the obvious privacy issues. Instead you mainly have to figure out who you know out-of-band for now (e.g. tweet "hey, who's on Matrix?").

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jaywalk wrote: post #248
gprasanth wrote: post #238

Suspecting it might be related to the recent letsencrypt cert authority expiring? Was just debugging an issue earlier today and just couldn't help wondering how much of the internet is secured by letsencrypt. All of the static hosts providing free SSL: vercel, netlify, render, firebase hosting, github pages, heroku etc. ... It does work on modern browsers and devices but goes terribly broken on a lot of old devices.

Obviously not possible to check right now to provide proof, but I feel quite confident in saying that Facebook does not use Let's Encrypt. It's also clearly not an SSL issue.

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Post by chasd00 »

can productivity (or emotional stability) for the overall US economy be tracked on a daily basis? I wonder if a wholesale facebook outage would show up on that graph as a brief blip in the positive direction.

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Post by gprasanth »

jaywalk wrote: post #248
gprasanth wrote: post #238

Suspecting it might be related to the recent letsencrypt cert authority expiring? Was just debugging an issue earlier today and just couldn't help wondering how much of the internet is secured by letsencrypt. All of the static hosts providing free SSL: vercel, netlify, render, firebase hosting, github pages, heroku etc. ... It does work on modern browsers and devices but goes terribly broken on a lot of old devices.

Obviously not possible to check right now to provide proof, but I feel quite confident in saying that Facebook does not use Let's Encrypt. It's also clearly not an SSL issue.

You're right. Fb doesn't seem to be using letsencrypt.

https://crt.sh/?q=facebook.com

On a side note, the amount of phishing sites using letsencrypt and having a domain similar to facebook.com is quite appalling.

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Post by drcongo »

standardUser wrote: post #289
jliptzin wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of all the big tech companies Facebook is the only one where it can completely disappear overnight and my life would be completely unaffected (or possibly improved by not having to explain to people I don't use facebook, please email or text me your invitations rather than use messenger). If Google, Amazon, Netflix, Apple disappeared the story would be completely different.

Facebook is an unparalleled titan in the realm of advertising and WhatsApp is basically a utility-level communication system for a big chunk of the globe. Instagram is a key cultural driver of the Western world. You many not feel any direct firsthand consequences, but the overall impact would transform the world around you.

Yeah, but would there be any drawbacks?
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