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On YouTube’s recommendation system
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#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's sad because I remember being able to find new and interesting creators passively. Now the main page is all corporate BS and the algorithm locks you in. We played a bit of WOW Classic last year and all of a sudden I was just flooded with Asmongold videos and videos of people clipping and replaying Asmongold. It took a day of "never show this again" to make it stop.
That's why I started using multiple accounts, makes it a lot easier to keep the algorithm on topic and not get side tracked just because you searched for a song or game once. In the end the core problem with the recommendation system is simply that there is only one list of recommendations, which makes it damn near impossible to switch to a different topic unless you start account hopping. The new topic-bar helps a l…
Freetube allows for this experience without multiple accounts... Or any accounts.
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#323>While there are far more videos uploaded that say the Earth is flat than those that say it’s round, on average, flat earth videos get far fewer views.
what a sentence
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#324Be careful with YouTube. For years people have talked about social media's effect on mental health, but personally, I've found the biggest hit to be YouTube. Their recommendation system is really the heart of the beast. It's essentially a dopamine reward system, not too dissimilar from a slot machine at a casino. Pull the lever (refresh the page) and get random results! It sucks you in to a cycle of refreshing, findi…
This is a big reason I largely only watch YouTube either on the treadmill or while folding laundry. When a YouTube video I want to watch is up I'll force myself to get on the treadmill to watch it. By the time it's over I'm tired enough to feel very "done" with YouTube.
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#325A long Rant:
I just came here to say why on earth YouTube keep showing me the same Casey Neistat video 1000 times even though in the past I have never chosen to click on it. Doesn't it make sense to just stop showing it then like after may be 10 times?
Also, what's up with showing the video that I have watched already over and over again?
I have just realized the Algorithm weighs quantity a lot over the quality, I have about 200 subscriptions containing multiple small time creators with niche content, but it is the same content creators again and again in my recommendations. I don't even see if any of my subscription posted a new video immediately.
NRI here, I watch a lot of programming content on youtube, but I have never watched a single programming video in hindi, but my entire recommendation is fill up with programming in hindi, can we just ask the algorithm to stop boxing user profiles into racialized tendencies.
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#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd just note some things Youtube doesn't have. It doesn't have any "the key words I'm interested are" section. It doesn't have any fine grained "show me less like this" or "show me more like that" options. That all the filters of net (Google, FB, etc) have convinced users that an out-of-their control recommendation system is a triumph of this sort of system. If you just demand the recommendation system be different,…
YouTube has the "Not interested" and "Don't recommend channel" buttons, as well as upvotes, upvotes, downvotes, and subscriptions.
As mentioned, downvotes do nothing.
But the main thing missing isn't video-by-video like/dislike.
The thing that's missing is something like a control panel. It would show "these are topics/tags I'm especially interested in", "these are topics/tags I want to avoid entirely", "these are things to show occasionally" "show topics similar to what I'm current watch" or not.
All "but they have that objections" here seem very around "but it does have ways to give the opaque recommender suggestions" - yes, but how the recommender works is still unknown, "magical", opaque and how the suggestions will effect the recommender is also unknown.
I mean, I happen to know the only way the only affect the recommender is to actually remove items from your history. That's pretty klunky. And it makes it impossible to say "give me X but not Y kind of X"
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#327A long Rant: I just came here to say why on earth YouTube keep showing me the same Casey Neistat video 1000 times even though in the past I have never chosen to click on it. Doesn't it make sense to just stop showing it then like after may be 10 times? Also, what's up with showing the video that I have watched already over and over again? I have just realized the Algorithm weighs quantity a lot over the quality, I ha…
I bet the algorithm would be very different if it was actually penalized with 'false positives' as a scarce resource.
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#328Be careful with YouTube. For years people have talked about social media's effect on mental health, but personally, I've found the biggest hit to be YouTube. Their recommendation system is really the heart of the beast. It's essentially a dopamine reward system, not too dissimilar from a slot machine at a casino. Pull the lever (refresh the page) and get random results! It sucks you in to a cycle of refreshing, findi…
If you prefer ublock origin filters I have the following:
youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="home"]
youtube.com###related
youtube.com##.html5-endscreen
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#329Is the guy who wrote this Orwell reincarnated?
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#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you tried clicking "not interested" on the videos?
yeah, didn't make a dent. cant click thousands videos one by one. you show a video 5 times and if I never click, youtube should get the hint.
that's weird, it's always worked ok for me. I'd file a bug report at this point.