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Re: O.mg Cable

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On most keyboards and mice the cables are not soldered on the inside but just a quick connector. You can get a female/male versions of this connector placed on either side of an attiny85 for a quick solderless implant no one will ever see. Then just undo 2 screws, plug your implant inside the mouse/keyboard, screw it back. To make this harder intentionally strip the screws with a drill, understanding you will never b…

> To make this harder Or, y'know, open it up and solder the connecter together (or remove the connector and solder the cable wires directly).

My anecdote was a bit old and I’m certain some of those devices had soldered cables, meaning that a sheared wire couldn’t be handled by buying a new chord or combining parts of two mice. Because I specifically looked for that a few times with no luck.

But they’re right, these days when you crack open things you often find a connector soldered to the motherboard and the cable is merely plugged in. I think it’s just easier to manufacture. Pick and place, bulk solder and then a machine to plug in the cable, fast as you like, maybe with a loop in it as a poor man’s strain protector.

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I once saw a PC security case where instead of the lock cylinder retracting a bolt, it turned a screw thread and opened the case by about half a millimeter. It took the guy unlocking it a good fifty turns to get the PC out of it. And there were two - one on each side. What's more, it was a tubular lock, so if you were single-pin picking you'd have to pick it 5 times per rotation. Nothing that would stand up to a batt…

I don't know anyone that would SPP a tubular lock in the field. $40 for tools designed to pick all pins at once and make a "key" with some quick impressioning motions. Some do have spool pins. In those cases you will need manual fiddling to pick it once then you have a key to keep spinning. Still, sounds like an interesting design. Link?

I was under the impression impressioning relied on all the lock's springs and driver pins being identical, and that better tubular locks avoided that?

I looked for a picture of the case but couldn't find one. I was in that college CAD lab... quite a long time ago.

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Most common locks can be easily picked with a tiny bit of practice. I'm completely incompetent but I can pick any Master lock in 5 minutes or less.

I remember learning how to break master locks back in the 1980s. But I also heard they changed the mechanism after that.

I went to home depot a couple years ago and bought every model of master lock they sold. Picked all of them in an afternoon.

I then taught kids to pick them.

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That's Apple's so-called "stalker warning", a ridiculous concept.

> a ridiculous concept Says a guy who’s never had a friend or family member who’s been stalked.

If someone can get close enough to drop an AirTag on your person or in your car, they can harm you regardless.

Re: O.mg Cable

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post #144

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On most keyboards and mice the cables are not soldered on the inside but just a quick connector. You can get a female/male versions of this connector placed on either side of an attiny85 for a quick solderless implant no one will ever see. Then just undo 2 screws, plug your implant inside the mouse/keyboard, screw it back. To make this harder intentionally strip the screws with a drill, understanding you will never b…

When you say strip the screw - do you mean strip the screw head, by drilling out the head? That's evil... (Or do you know some way to strip the thread itself).

Yeah just intentionally drill the head so those screws are not coming out again without power tools which should be obvious in the open where they are deployed.

Or just epoxy the whole thing together.

Re: O.mg Cable

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My school had a way to keep peripherals from wandering off, but if all you need to do is swap the cables then I’m not sure that would still work. Wrapping the cables into a wiring loom makes that process slower, assuming the loom is complicated enough. Did you ever use heat shrink? Or locking cable ties? What the school did was run a steel cable behind the desks, then put a loop of the mouse chord through a steel was…

On most keyboards and mice the cables are not soldered on the inside but just a quick connector. You can get a female/male versions of this connector placed on either side of an attiny85 for a quick solderless implant no one will ever see. Then just undo 2 screws, plug your implant inside the mouse/keyboard, screw it back. To make this harder intentionally strip the screws with a drill, understanding you will never b…

Epoxying the screws in might be easier?

Re: O.mg Cable

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post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On most keyboards and mice the cables are not soldered on the inside but just a quick connector. You can get a female/male versions of this connector placed on either side of an attiny85 for a quick solderless implant no one will ever see. Then just undo 2 screws, plug your implant inside the mouse/keyboard, screw it back. To make this harder intentionally strip the screws with a drill, understanding you will never b…

Seems there are special drill bits for removing stripped screws…

If you can get away with using a drill on a keyboard and mouse covertly, I want to watch.

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The real answer? Because these people are just like us, geeks, nerds, techies, early adopters. They are just the same people we live and work with. The film Enemy of the State (1998) was science fiction except with the parts where the techy operators were just normal nerds like us. That what was most scary part of the film not the (at the time fantastic) surveillance.

They are really quite unlike us. And our sets of norms is, shall we say, somewhat different to theirs.

Pretty confidant that the odds of someone who works for a three letter agency responding to you here is much higher than most forums.

Re: O.mg Cable

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post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On most keyboards and mice the cables are not soldered on the inside but just a quick connector. You can get a female/male versions of this connector placed on either side of an attiny85 for a quick solderless implant no one will ever see. Then just undo 2 screws, plug your implant inside the mouse/keyboard, screw it back. To make this harder intentionally strip the screws with a drill, understanding you will never b…

Seems there are special drill bits for removing stripped screws…

Good luck with those and that size screw.
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