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Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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Interestingly, when I was still in university, I never used Sci-hub at all. I can download almost any paper using school's network (or VPN) since the library have subscriptions for basically all the major publishers. I only started to use it occasionally once I've graduated (but I didn't really do any formal research any more.)

Interestingly, every student I know uses sci-hub.

Interestingly it's almost necessary in third world.

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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post #305

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77TB (or 104 TB) sounds expensive, but many people reading this could buy that kind of storage with just one month's salary. (SeaGate IronWolf Pro 16 TB, currently $521 on Amazon)

you could do it for about $2300 by shucking external hard drives. I picked up a couple 10TB WD drives last year for $210 each for my NAS.

Off topic but I didn’t realize you could save that much! Why are externals less expensive?

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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Anyone remember Napster? There were extremely obscure musical recordings that were instantly found on Napster that are impossible to find even today. It took a long time for anyone to rebuild that data to the level of usefulness that Napster had. If Sci-Hub is forced to shut down due to legal pressure, technical problems, running out of money, or the founder losing interest, it would take a long time for anyone to du…

> I think a good way to keep the cause alive is to backup or mirror the 85,483,811 papers hosted on Sci-Hub.

There's already an effort where the data is broken up into 100GB chunks [1]. Looks like the entire database is duplicated now at least 10 times. [2]

> Anyone remember Napster? There were extremely obscure musical recordings that were instantly found on Napster that are impossible to find even today.

That existed (and still exists) - there was oink.cd, then what.cd, and now RED. But each incarnation has lost things. Each time you burn down the library, you're bound to lose something. It's disappointing there isn't a legal way of cultural preservation. We need something like a crowd sourced digital library.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/nc27fv/rescue_...

[2] https://phillm.net/torrent-health-frontend/stats-filtered-ta...

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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post #305

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you could do it for about $2300 by shucking external hard drives. I picked up a couple 10TB WD drives last year for $210 each for my NAS.

Off topic but I didn’t realize you could save that much! Why are externals less expensive?

There's a bit on the r/DataHoarder subreddit about it[0]. They say it comes down to a shorter warranty, more demand and "Binning of performance parts".

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/wiki/hardware#wiki_shuc...

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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Could someone with knowledge of the matter explain why scientists still publish to these journals, and still sign up for access? It seems like as long as every university in the world can just switch to a blog a do away with publications, they'd save a lot of money, improve science, and reduce complexity overnight. Why are paid journals still a thing?

Not all journals (and venues) are equal, just like how not all canyons are the Grand Canyon.

When planning your holiday, the canyon matters. When submitting your paper, the venue matters - is it the right audience, and does it maximalise the impact?

Article in Science / Nature is vastly more impressive than in most regional journals - which affects your career options.

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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This is not true for most universities around the world. Only wealthy ones in first-world countries. All of my father’s academic colleagues in Mexico use Sci-Hub daily, and rely on it for access to literature. But beyond that, there are paywalled journals which Harvard does not subscribe to. There are journals which the University of California does not subscribe to. (Or pick your favorite university, and there will…

It's obscene that scientific literature is walled away from the public.

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Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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77TB (or 104 TB) sounds expensive, but many people reading this could buy that kind of storage with just one month's salary. (SeaGate IronWolf Pro 16 TB, currently $521 on Amazon)

77 / 16 = 5.5 (6 disks) at $521 per disk turns into $3126. Seems only 11 countries in the world has a higher salary than $3126[1], and probably people wouldn't buy something like that with their entire monthly salary, so at least $5000 a month is required to be able to just dispose $3126 for some drives. That leaves 5 countries with a average salary higher than $5000. Granted, the source might not be the best, nor us…

This is why broad averages aren't always the most useful statistic. The number of complete mirrors required to make the data trove fairly robust is much lower than the number of people in the world, and the prior commentor's qualifier was "people reading this", which is likely a biased sample and includes many people working in technology in the richest countries in the world. It's unlikely that said population's income is clustered around overall national averages, and only a relatively small number of outliers are required to set up adequate mirroring.

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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> getting new papers on to Sci-Hub and it becoming a little bit less relevant over time Sci-Hub is just as relevant as ever. What has happened is that paywalled papers published in 2021 are losing a substantial proportion of their readers and potential citations, and their future impact will be depressed compared to papers from previous years. Even when Sci-Hub starts adding papers again, there may be a significant p…

> Unestablished researchers publishing important early-career papers in paywalled journals are getting harmed. I'm always amazed at the lack of will to change what everyone agrees is a problem.

It has little to do with will, and much more with building a scientific career.

Unless you meant that the way academia is structured is the problem here. Because it is and it leads to these excesses. Publishing, itself an acknowledged problem, is being addressed. But slowly, very slowly. Because the incentives in academia do not point to risk taking.

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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Sandboxes can be escaped from.

You can only get guaranteed protection from malware infections through the internet if you turn off your machine. Even then there might be some remote management exploits which would work on turned off machines, so unplug the cables aswell.

Thats not a reason to fudge with the definitions. The existence of sandboxes doesnt mean there are no more pdf exploits. There still are and sandboxes dont mitigate it entirely.

There is also more ways then just turning off your machine. Its needlessly oversimplifying complex topics. Topics that are very interesting and have severe implications. Especially if we are talking about state level espionage.

So in short, no you are wrong. PDF exploits are still a thing. You made unjustified assumptions.

Reading my post it sounds confrontational. Thats not my intent.

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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Given how beneficial sci-hub is, there ought to be some way that the scientific community can formally recognise this, as a way of legitimizing her cause. Some ways I can think of: * Get her elected as rector of a university. Contraversial figures are sometimes elected as Rector, at least in the UK, because students are the electorate. However for the same reason this isn't considered especially prestigious by people…

Honorary doctorate, maybe?

Elbakyan's contribution to humanity is way bigger than that and cannot be overstated. An honorary doctorate from many major international universities, maybe.

Her effort deserves to be rewarded with the nobel peace prize, imsvho.

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