Yet another related ongoing thread:
Microsoft announces Windows 11
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#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Microsoft doesn't have a large existing Windows Store business to protect, This is how you GET a large existing Windows Store business.
It's not like Microsoft hasn't tried very hard in the last 10 years to emulate the iOS business model, but I guess Windows users don't like walled gardens.
But they messed up so bad with the Windows store. It is beyond belief:
- By including Candy Crush and other bloatware in the store, the store started with a bad reputation already.
- By allowing manufacturers to define apps you cannot uninstall via the store, this infuriated any power user.
- By no allowing to delete any items from your "purchase history" you could never try out any free apps without them contaminating your history. They did so to prevent people from losing their purchases, but this was just stupid with free apps.
- Discovery in the store was a joke. Search results showed apps with less than 100 installs. Descriptions and screenshots of apps are often so bad that there is no way to figure out what an app does.
- Not finding a way to offer legacy apps in the store was such a fail, it is incomprehensible. It is 2021 and end users still have to download applications from CNet and Sourceforge. A security nightmare. Don't get me started on UWP and the UIs from hell caused by it.
Finally, there is absolutely no reason that the Windows store couldn't have been what Steam is now. Just MS incompetence in their vision of where to start.
-- Edit:
It seems legacy apps are coming to the store with Windows 11. Yeah! Let's see how they mess up this time.
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#323Earlier quoted context omitted.
But why the change at all? I wonder what their user story for this one was.
I have wondered that too, I don't like the look of the new taskbar, I was hoping they'd do more with it with some of the user concepts floating around (such as a rounded floating taskbar.) I'm sure the true reason is that is what MacOS does, so they just copied it.
With (ultra)widescreens these days moving the Start Menu and Search boxes to the center of the screen makes a lot of sense. Literally brings them "front and center", and I guess if the menus/windows/boxes are moving to the center, moving the icons that open them to the center makes sense.
As a vertical taskbar user (since way back in XP days) though, I'm definitely upset by all the wasted space. I'm perplexed why they aren't allowing vertical taskbars at launch. I'm sure telemetry suggests most users keep a bottom taskbar.
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#324It's OK, 2022 will be the year of the Linux desktop
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#325Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11
#326I wish MS stopped doing redesign of their interfaces every couple of years and just fixed the broken stuff the introduced somewhere along the way. - Settings / control panel inconsistency and the other dozen places you can change configs for a single thing - Telemetry, ads and system crap - Package management and sandboxing And the list goes on.
Most of those are actually features. 1. Old control panels: Drivers may overlay or modify the window, so you can't really change them (don't forget: Windows supports many obscure devices like DAWs and heavy machinery, many things Linux users have never even considered connecting to a PC, and all of those have custom drivers from the device manufacturer that Microsoft doesn't control) 2. Telemetry, ads: Yes, this is a…
Windows Sandbox is a thing as of this year: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-pro...
Ephemeral, clean, windows instance on demand enabled by hypervisor tech. Only on Pro though. :-/
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#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
What a lame excuse to buy yourself a Mac. Totally recommended :)
Totally recommend it too. There are a few things that I don't like on Mac, but overall, works really well. And you can have a local account
What's frustrating about the Mac is that every time they screw up bad enough that I try to switch back to other options (I was a Windows and Linux, among other things, user for 15 years before I started using Mac) I find they're still so much worse that I'd just be cutting off my nose to spite my face, by switching.
I wish they had actual competition. It doesn't seem like anyone else is targeting the same market at all, despite technically having "competing products".
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#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
- Windows have rounded corners - Teams integrated into Windows - A new widgets fly out for weather, news, etc. (appears this will require you login with a Microsoft Account) - A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup No thank you
> - Teams integrated into Windows Is this just asking for antitrust? I mean, Apple can get away with sherlocking their opposition but they don't have a monopoly on desktop OS.
I was going to ask, didn't they get sued in the 90's for something similar?
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#329Every time this happens someone says fuck it and installs Linux. After two weeks some of them come back, but the Linux market share grows. I want an OS that stays current on security patches, attempts to be as unobtrusive as possible, allows for Desktop Environment customization but has sane defaults. I don't want special integrations. The OS should follow single responsibility and defer special functionality to app…
I did this when Vista came out. I said fuck it and installed Ubuntu, I had enough of Microsoft bullshit. Then Ubuntu upgraded and moved all window icons to the left side and rearranged them awkwardly. On the next update, they upgraded the sound subsystem and I was without sound until I bought my next PC. Another update came and computer went to sleep when watching movies, so I had to move the mouse every minute to fix it.
I said fuck it and installed Windows 7.
There's no escape.
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#330> " Microsoft is also integrating Microsoft Teams directly into Windows 11, for both consumers and commercial users. " Not that I have any objections to Teams per se but attempting to drive adoption by bundling got Microsoft in trouble in the IE era; didn't they learn their lesson? Either way, probably the first thing I'll be doing after a fresh install of Windows 11 is uninstalling Teams.
Will uninstalling be an option? They say it's integrated, so that seems unlikely.
I doubt it. What's important too is that you have to use a MS account to use teams, goodbye local windows accounts.