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Post by willis936 »

unknown_error wrote: post #319
willis936 wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm doing the opposite. Saying that the fed is actively engaging in illegal search and seizure is not ignoring the whistleblowers that brought the scope of the issue to light, it's acknowledging the issue.

The point is that the Constitution is largely meaningless, feel-good fluffery that has no actual bearing on which of our so-called rights are actually available to us. It's an aspirational document in a largely lawless land, more a historical oddity than the supreme anything. If you wait for legislators and law enforcement to fix personal privacy, you've already lost... the US law enforcement culture is actively host…

>The point is that the Constitution is largely meaningless, feel-good fluffery that has no actual bearing on which of our so-called rights are actually available to us.

IANAL but this sounds fundamentally wrong in every way I interpret it. The Constitution is a set of laws that cannot be contradicted by any other law, executive action, or judicial action, with the exception of an amendment.

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Post by 867-5309 »

vanburen wrote: post #162
867-5309 wrote: post #41

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totally agree. I had no end of shit trying to watch BBC News channel from abroad. I'm a UK national, I own a house in the UK, I pay UK taxes, I pay your stupid TV licence fee, you're broadcasting live over 3 separate CDNs, just let me watch the fucking news. I eventually subscribed to an illegal IPTV service for that one sodding channel. I don't even need the other 17,000 channels. the BBC drove me to it

It may be worth looking at the AAISP L2TP Service[1]. They are a domestic ISP, so I guess iplayer should work over the service. [1]: https://www.aa.net.uk/broadband/l2tp-service/

looked interesting, but is around double the price for around max 2 hours viewing per day, with no guaranty of supporting BBC streams. from experience I'll presume they know about this service and are actively blocking their subnet

I'm paying around half the price for unlimited viewing of direct streams (no faffing with client protocols) which come transcoded for home and mobile usage

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Post by dmitriid »

xnx wrote: post #250
unknown_error wrote: post #241

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Because Google is definitely the most trustworthy company when it comes to data governance and respecting user privacy. No chance they'd use it to put you into a FLoC-type thing, benefiting their own advertising business while shutting out competitors. Google, the engineering company, always plays second fiddle to Google, the advertising company.

I trust Google and Apple 100x more (low estimate) than I do Comcast/Verizon, AT&T, etc.

Meanwhile even Google's employees don't know what data Google collects, how to turn it off, and de-google their phones. A thread with unsealed documents: https://twitter.com/jason_kint/status/1398353211220807682

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Post by 867-5309 »

mikecarlton wrote: post #244
herbstein wrote: post #117

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Completely off-topic: great choice of name. That number is burned into my mind, and will be forever

Still more off-topic: I can only read it as 86-75-309

the joy of fitting 7 beats into a 4/4 signature

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Post by marshray »

o8r3oFTZPE wrote: post #316

Here is a simple question: Why is there only one "Tor". Why haven't there been more onion routing projects. (Maybe there have been and I am just not aware.) Perhaps the same reason(s) we never saw widespread adoption of remote proxies, despite their usefulness in many situations. Although in some respects onion routing seems quite an improvement over "simple" proxies.

The more nodes you have participating the more secure an onion system tends to be. Since the Tor network can carry most kinds of traffic, the motivation to avoid a fork is strong.

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Post by oarsinsync »

dannyw wrote: post #216
headmelted wrote: post #164

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Let's be really frank about it - no large company is going to offer end-to-end encryption of photos because of what kind of photos might end up on their infrastructure if they do. And honestly I don't blame them at all . I'd just like to see Apple be more transparent with this one particular issue because it undermines so much of what they're advertising to the consumer. A transparency label for iCloud backup showing…

Are you really arguing that because child pornography exists, no large company should offer ETE photos? Despite there been reasonable solutions like bloom filters and client sided hash detection, so that known child abuse material can be detected, without it needing to compromise the privacy of 99.99999% of users? And that photos present some of the most sensitive materials on your device: - geo-IP location showing b…

> geo-IP location showing basically everywhere you have taken a photo in, ever since the dawn of time

Geo-IP is the process of taking an IP address and attributing an location to that IP address.

I think you meant GPS location?

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Post by dcow »

Isn’t iCloud+ “VPN” (Private Relay) just white-labled Cloudflare Warp? Is “onion router” a new development or is Jerry overzealously inferring there’s more than meets the eye here?

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Post by UncleEntity »

herbstein wrote: post #117
867-5309 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

totally agree. I had no end of shit trying to watch BBC News channel from abroad. I'm a UK national, I own a house in the UK, I pay UK taxes, I pay your stupid TV licence fee, you're broadcasting live over 3 separate CDNs, just let me watch the fucking news. I eventually subscribed to an illegal IPTV service for that one sodding channel. I don't even need the other 17,000 channels. the BBC drove me to it

Completely off-topic: great choice of name. That number is burned into my mind, and will be forever

To continue the off-topicness...

That number almost always works for store 'loyalty program' discounts too.

867-5309

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Post by 867-5309 »

withinboredom wrote: post #313
kmeisthax wrote: post #102

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More generally, geographic licensing maximizes revenue without damaging brand goodwill for the vast majority of customers, so pretty much everyone is going to do it. Hell, I thought the practice would die (or at least slow down) when Netflix started transitioning away from syndicated TV and movies; this never happened. Netflix will totally geoblock their own shows so they can, say, release a cartoon on a weekly basis…

> the US is the biggest market for a lot of this stuff I have a funny feeling that a very large percentage of that market comes from VPNs. Everyone I know watches the US Netflix and we aren’t in the US.

of all the streaming services, I have found Netflix to be the one that cares least about geoblocking. they appear to care on the outside to appease the production outlets, but on the inside they don't appear to block or discourage VPNs at all. unlike the BBC who actively, and aggressively, geoblock their content
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