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If you don't understand the authors frustration, read Daniel Stenberg blog about what kind of requests he gets about curl. It's insane and ridiculous, not everybody is capable of/wanting to deal with all kinds of shit and hostile users like Daniel.
Do you have a link? I'd love to read this.
I think he also posts some of the funny ones on Twitter
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Unfortunately, the founder of Home Assistant has acted similarly too. When NixOS maintainers raised concerns, he accused them of having "no intention to contribute anything positively." This was despite NixOS maintainers' best efforts to engage in a civil discussion. To make matters worse, he even used the fact that the NixOS discussion was temporarily locked down due to high tensions and accused NixOS maintainers of…
It seems like HA has its own plugin distribution model, whereas NixOS is trying to work around that to provide reproducible builds. Aside from how this issue has been handled, poorly, that seems like a reasonable technical decision for HA to make, particularly given that their main use case is semi-technical user installing on a Raspberry Pi, and in that case is it something they should be forced to support? A fork s…
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That's the point of packaging it... you review it at the time that you package it, and then you review it each time you update it in the future. Should always do a simple diff at minimum to see what changed. That's just part of being a responsible open source user.
> Should always do a simple diff at minimum to see what changed. That's just part of being a responsible open source user. Nobody does this, as this is completely unreasonable thing to expect.
A very similar thing happened when the folks at flathub tried to package MultiMC. Unfortunately the author threatened to sue for trademark infringement and they backed down. https://github.com/flathub/flathub/pull/1978#issuecomment-74...
It's interesting since from https://github.com/sponsors/frenck#sponsors he pitches: > Are you enjoying my work? And want to support me in my effort helping the world to become a better place by dedicating my time & knowledge to create & innovate open source software solutions. Allowing everybody on this earth the privilege to enjoy those things for free?
Am I missing something, or is the project in question literally just one week old? https://pypi.org/project/ambee/#history https://github.com/frenck/python-ambee/commits/main
If the response to someone finding and using your work is the kind of over the top demand to "don't use the thing I just released under a permissive license" with multiple replies that amount to, "Don't use the thing in a way I don't like kthanxbai" how can you depend on it?
That wasn't the issue and it's crazy how much people interpreted it as such. His issue is with how it was packaged with it. He want it to be exclusively distributed using PIP.
If you don't want to depends on PIP, well sure don't use it.
Anyone who claims to care about the mental health of open source devs should be on the author's side here
The author however is hired by the commercial entity behind Home assistant. And I'm not against making money using open source software. But when you build your company and income on an open source license and the work of others you should respect that license both ways.
Both the comments on GitHub, and this thread are an absolutely awful look for open source, and it's feedback like this that drives excellent creators to stop creating open source projects, leaving the entire FOSS ecosystem left with half-assed solutions or hand-off maintainers who can do nothing more than nominal bugfixes once an original author leaves because of harassment. You're entitled to nothing when authors wr…
Which is something of a bait and switch for a MIT licenced library
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He just doesn't want anything of his included in nixpkgs because he doesn't want to deal with anyone opening Github issues against his repos if there happen to be build / installation issues that are coming from some kind of failure in the nixpkgs install / build process.
That's speculative on his part (noone has opened any issues with him, neither coming from nixos nor from any other repackaging). The nixos guys also offered various proposals to him to completely avoid any support burden on his part, all of which he roundly rejected. Seems he's just being unreasonable for the sake of it tbh; I can't see any logical reasoning behind it all.
Which is the whole point of acting on it before it happens...
It's crazy the amount of entitlement I see toward open-source developers. You don't like his stance, then fork it and support it yourself. You are already lucky to have a good base to work on, you shouldn't even be entitled to that!
His About page https://frenck.dev/about/ looks a bit weird after I read that GitHub thread > I like to give back my knowledge and time to the open source community.
Seems like he does give back his knowledge and time to the open source community. Much more than me I can tell you, and probably more than many of people in thread.
What he don't like is people expecting support from him in ways that differ his initial distribution methods, which makes sense when time is a limited ressource and he clearly has expectations on how he want to spend it.