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Post by nomdep »

jkaplowitz wrote: post #277
nomdep wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NYC has been offering vaccines for all international tourists for quite some time: https://twitter.com/nycgov/status/1390389905033994246

Not all. NY hasn't yet expanded eligibility to international residents, unlike some states like PA (other than Philadelphia) and TX which are okay vaccinating anyone of the right age regardless of country of residence. Source: https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/ "All individuals 12 years of age and older that reside in the United States are eligible to receive the vaccine." https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid…

That tweet from the official account of the City of New York says otherwise: “With State authorization, we can get vaccines to tourists and make sure they have a built in souvenir to bring home with them.”

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Post by kmonsen »

_hyn3 wrote: post #273
walrus01 wrote: post #181

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> 2. I asked them about eligibility and told them I don't clear CA guidelines. They told me it's first come, first served with an ID showing I am 18+. There are a number of 'special' vaccination sites in the USA which are indeed vaccinating first come, first served people without going through any special qualifications/eligibility check. For instance FEMA was, and still is, running a mass vaccination site in Yakima,…

> There are a number of 'special' vaccination sites in the USA which are indeed vaccinating first come, first served people without going through any special qualifications/eligibility check. As well as entire states in certain parts of the USA. For example, Texas, where you only have to be at least 12 years old[0]. In many cities in Texas, they're at more than 50% and running out of arms to stick them in, and defini…

This is historical, there are no limitations in CA now. I believe that’s true for the whole country since April 15th. Bay Area removed requirements a few days before that due to higher than anticipated supply.

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Post by lamontcg »

Sounds like he violated a confidentiality agreement.

If you read something on a private discussion forum and then blast it out publicly on twitter, don't be shocked when you get kicked out of that forum.

It sorta doesn't matter how righteous your cause was, it is just going to be automatic.

I know people that have been fired from the company they work for over a similar kind of offense. If you've signed a confidentiality agreement then you do not have the right of freedom to tweet without repercussions.

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Post by kmonsen »

gabereiser wrote: post #310
hef19898 wrote: post #289

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I am split on that. Waiting in line behind all those having prioritized appointments in order to catch surplus doses, fine. Lying to get such an appointment? Not cool. Generally, we shouldn't make such a fuss vaccination on social media, either way.

People lie. All the time. The Karen’s of the world. If you deceived in order to get vaxed and someone who desperately needs the vax couldn’t get one, I understand the anger. I’ve lost friends to covid. What I will say is life isn’t fair, crying about it after the fact doesn’t do anyone any justice. Focus on you and just go get vaxed. If you need to make an appointment, do it. If you need to walk up to a clinic, do it…

Your original post is a bit unclear. You don’t state if you lied or not pretending to be eligible.

If you did I don’t really feel any moral superiority, we each make our own decisions. That being said you are now one of those Karen’s in your own words.

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Post by neonological »

dang wrote: post #304
neonological wrote: post #302

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> Normally, of course, we'd downweight this sort of petty drama. Down weight? So you guys internally pick and choose topics to weight down? I thought HN was purely community driven with only comments being moderated. Of course on the surface you guys say you only downweight petty drama but I truly wonder if that's actually true. The fact that you guys downweight anything without trusting the community makes me questi…

> I thought HN was purely community driven with only comments being moderated HN is a curated site, always has been, and has never claimed otherwise. It is an interaction between three subsystems: community, software, and moderators. All three are necessary. If you or anyone would like to know more, here are some links to past explanations to start with. If there are still questions after familiarizing yourself with…

>That is obviously not at all what I said.

You said, and I quote:

"Normally, of course, we'd downweight this sort of petty drama. "

So I responded with statement that at its' core means that any biased entity would say this to protect their own reputation regardless of whether it's true or not. I'm not saying what you said isn't true, but given your position there is conflict of interest. This is what someone in your position will always say.

>I'm not sure I buy that, given how long you've been around HN and how much of the last 8 years I've spent explaining how HN is moderated.

At most I thought you guys would moderate posts that were off topic and that kind of thing. But as much as this can be classified as "petty drama" it can also be classified as Negative viewpoints and news about Ycombinator. I did not realize you guys would insert your opinion on what things are considered "petty drama" and what things aren't.

Yeah I've been here for a while and I was not aware this type of censorship was done. Sometimes a benevolent dictator is actually benevolent, sometimes not.

Still there's nothing out of the norm here, nothing outrageous. Seems reasonable to say, don't trust news about YC on HN.

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Post by temp8964 »

mbgerring wrote: post #274
dasickis wrote: post #120

I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

So just so everyone has the full context: Oakland opened up its vaccination sites to more people on a shorter timeline than the rest of the state, in certain ZIP codes with disproportionately poor residents, in order to get vaccines to those disproportionately poor residents. I know this because this is how several of my friends who live in West Oakland got vaccinated ahead of the eligibility opening up in the rest o…

You are mixing two things. Even if the sites were setup for poor neighborhood, it doesn't necessarily mean they are exclusive for people from those neighborhood.

And also, basic common sense, the sites are run by adults. If the adults over there don't care, why should you care?

Unless you have specific knowledge of people lied to get to use those sites, nobody need your judgement to "exonerate" themselves.

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Post by pdonis »

dasickis wrote: post #120

I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

> 4. Posted it in an internal forum for other founders.

Why? That seems to be the key question and I don't see an answer to it anywhere in this discussion.

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Post by ping_pong »

Igelau wrote: post #298
mbgerring wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So just so everyone has the full context: Oakland opened up its vaccination sites to more people on a shorter timeline than the rest of the state, in certain ZIP codes with disproportionately poor residents, in order to get vaccines to those disproportionately poor residents. I know this because this is how several of my friends who live in West Oakland got vaccinated ahead of the eligibility opening up in the rest o…

> the kind of thing you’re describing could be seen by a reasonable person as unethical False. A reasonable person would know that the shots don't last after they are thawed out. If someone skipped the appointment, the ethical thing to do is put it in the next warm body that's standing by rather than waste the shot. No one owes anyone any "coming clean" over encouraging others not to let those shots go to waste.

Incorrect. J&J vaccine are designed to be stored at regular refrigerator temperatures. They are different from the mRNA vaccines which expire shortly after thawing. So J&J shelf life is much much longer than Pfizer and Moderna and are good for areas where recipients returning for a 2nd vaccine shot are less likely.

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Post by gabereiser »

kmonsen wrote: post #324
gabereiser wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People lie. All the time. The Karen’s of the world. If you deceived in order to get vaxed and someone who desperately needs the vax couldn’t get one, I understand the anger. I’ve lost friends to covid. What I will say is life isn’t fair, crying about it after the fact doesn’t do anyone any justice. Focus on you and just go get vaxed. If you need to make an appointment, do it. If you need to walk up to a clinic, do it…

Your original post is a bit unclear. You don’t state if you lied or not pretending to be eligible. If you did I don’t really feel any moral superiority, we each make our own decisions. That being said you are now one of those Karen’s in your own words.

I didn’t lie to skip a line. I just showed up. Labeling me isn’t going to get people vaxed. Go get vaxed.

Also, Karen’s (internet term) are people who complain about issues that don’t affect them personally or take offense at others actions that don’t matter to them. Or using their privilege to get what they want. I specifically stated I just showed up.

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Post by fuckyah »

dasickis wrote: post #120

I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

Pretty stupid to take this experimental vaxx!
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