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I totally agree for 90, even 99% of the tracks from that era, but there are some serious gems in there. I really enjoy the Youtube account "TECHNO" for finding some of it. A few producers that stood out to me: Kobaya, Rino Cerrone, Samuel L. Session, Leandro Gamez, G-Force, Tomie Nevada, Headroom, Gaetano Parisio, Damon Wild & Echoplex (slightly difference scene), Ade Fenton ... and many others less famous and with f…

Damon Wild, that's good stuff. Here, crack a cool one and breathe this in, for a little while: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RFY8GK5PAA

Did exactly as you said. Fantastic.

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This is about as conventional a narrative as you can get. I've never been happy with it though, it's way too much of a tidy, linear, clean through-line. For instance, this narrative always leave out free-style and electro like Hashim (example: 1983, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykK0uEjSsqY ), Newcleus, etc. Soulsonic Force (1982: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHQ11l4uiM4 ) predated Atkins Cybotron project and At…

It's a shame this isn't the top comment, because it's a lot more interesting than Ishkur's smartassery and all the across-the-pond sniping. There used to be a great website called Deep House Page which archived loads of Hot Mix 5 mixes, and you could really hear just how diverse that early era of post-disco dance music was, before it even got pigeonholed into "house" or "techno" and the myriad of subgenres that came…

I find Ten Ragas to a Disco Beat intriguing (1982) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUqnPYwoiF4

Seems there was a lot of parallel invention and cross pollination.

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OP didn’t insinuate people should feel guilty. Those feelings you are having are of your own causing and interpretation. He was just stating facts

oh i don't feel any guilt at all. I was interpreting OPs motive for changing their behavior, and why they felt the need to communicate it as if it were a noble act. > its prodimently white. I have since taken active steps to seek out the lesser know black artists to support I couldn't care less who the specific artist is for techno music i listen to.

Cool? Why can’t we all do what we please? OP has a different opinion and wants to honor the underrepresented people who inspired it

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Some thoughts from someone who was there, on the fringe of it: Detroit: is a land of wondrous musical invention, just new trends but whole new paradigms over and over, and it's never credited: Motown, of course; Punk (Iggy Pop & the Stooges, MC5 - name earlier punk!); Funkadelic (George Clinton et al); and Techno. At their heart they are creative, artistic, non-commercial (Motown being a big exception to the latter).…

It is not what "poeple associate with black kids", it is what it was and what it is, most black kids are not middle class. The black community first and foremost were the one to adopt hiphop as their "voice". In general, all types of electronic music thrived in Europe rather than in the US, house, techno, trans, even dub/regeae/jungle etc. not necessarly just the black middle class music.

> It is not what "poeple associate with black kids", it is what it was and what it is, most black kids are not middle class.

What is that based on? What data or experience do you have? It looks to me like your argument is that racial stereotypes are a given truth - a sadly ignorant, uncritical point of view.

Most kids are not middle-class, but the African-American middle class has exploded in size. And middle-class or not, that doesn't make black kids into stereotypes of hip-hop music. I've known and know many (of all classes); they are just people, neighbors, friends, kids. It's bizarre to see people - always people mostly isolated from experience - talking about them like they are anything else.

And where on HN and in most of our lives are African-Americans to speak for themselves, with their own voices, rather than other people talking about them? If any are here and read the parent, would they stick around?

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I'm pleased to see accuracy in the history of techno. I for one did not know it's roots took place back in the 70s and from the black community. These days when I look at techno artists and their raving followers, its prodimently white. I have since taken active steps to seek out the lesser know black artists to support. Many modern music fundamentals are origins from the black community and very little is correctly…

White European here (Spain). Black people in the US invented basically the three modern music roots: - Blues/Rock - Techno - Rap The problem is rap had much better marketing in the US, ditto with rhythm and blues in the 90's.

not just techno, also house

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It's a shame this isn't the top comment, because it's a lot more interesting than Ishkur's smartassery and all the across-the-pond sniping. There used to be a great website called Deep House Page which archived loads of Hot Mix 5 mixes, and you could really hear just how diverse that early era of post-disco dance music was, before it even got pigeonholed into "house" or "techno" and the myriad of subgenres that came…

I find Ten Ragas to a Disco Beat intriguing (1982) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUqnPYwoiF4 Seems there was a lot of parallel invention and cross pollination.

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