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Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by krainboltgreene »

seriousquestion wrote: post #234
pcbro141 wrote: post #212

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I didn't 'take the bait', what you're doing is gaslighting. It's not that I'm a 'snowflake' or 'I don't understand chan humor', what they're doing is actually fucked up and dangerous even if they justify it as 'trolling' or 'irony' that should be ignored. There is nothing normal about that boards pre-occupation with calling for racial extermination. I don't give a damn if they're posting that 'ironically', there is n…

Not recognizing it as trolling and intentional agitation makes it more dangerous. You are taking the bait as the Christchurch shooter intended; One of the goals of his bloodshed, he wrote, was to “agitate the political enemies of my people into action, to cause them to overextend their own hand and experience the eventual and inevitable backlash as a result.” He said he wanted to “incite violence, retaliation and fur…

> Not recognizing it as trolling and intentional agitation makes it more dangerous.

I mean this is just flagrantly wrong.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by krainboltgreene »

Thorentis wrote: post #288
pcbro141 wrote: post #157

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In order list of threads from browsing /pol/ for people who want to know how 'diverse' it is without visiting: - Anti-vax - Anti-gay parents - Goose - Ben Shapiro praise thread with a dash of anti-semitism and a whole lot of "i hope all ni**rs die" - Praising George Floyd mural vandalism - Anti-transgender - Praising white nationalism/white ethnostate - Praising 'national rape day' - Anti-Islam - Anti-race mixing - I…

If you compare this list to the types of posts you see on Facebook/Twitter etc. then it's actually quite diverse. I'm not advocating for the good of those topics, but the argument against 4chan is usually "this should never be talked about anywhere". Credit where credit is due: 4chan contains discussions of topics you will not and cannot find on mainstream social media.

> If you compare this list to the types of posts you see on Facebook/Twitter etc. then it's actually quite diverse.

I have never seen this kind of content on Twitter or Facebook, in my own feeds or in trending topics. I would have to actively look. I have however seen a ton of real diverse content from a diverse group of people. This is a lie that where the intent is to downplay the white supremacist content.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by krainboltgreene »

faeriechangling wrote: post #312
pcbro141 wrote: post #157

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In order list of threads from browsing /pol/ for people who want to know how 'diverse' it is without visiting: - Anti-vax - Anti-gay parents - Goose - Ben Shapiro praise thread with a dash of anti-semitism and a whole lot of "i hope all ni**rs die" - Praising George Floyd mural vandalism - Anti-transgender - Praising white nationalism/white ethnostate - Praising 'national rape day' - Anti-Islam - Anti-race mixing - I…

>White You would be surprised.

No we wouldn't.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by Blikkentrekker »

makomk wrote: post #211
_lffv wrote: post #18

> Poole's 4chan is an anonymous, ephemeral imageboard that is often given the title "cesspool of the Internet." The site is broken up into boards of various topics, and some of the more lawless boards are home to all of the worst characters on the Internet, like school shooters, child pornographers, and racists. It's also the birthplace of a lot of Internet culture, like Rickrolling, lolcats, and, more recently, Pepe…

Media reporting on anything involving 4chan has always been terrible. I remember a story about, I think, Emma Watson that turned out to be literally fake news - as in, it came from an already documented fake news site run by a known serial hoaxer, was laundered into legitimacy by increasingly reputable publications, and eventually ended up being reported as true everywhere including places like the BBC.

Media reporting on almost anything is terrible. It's only obvious when one be somewhat well-versed about the subject themselves.

Media reporting on internet communities, or places that I physically live in that I've seen are invariably very inaccurate.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by andyxor »

odonnellryan wrote: post #314
andyxor wrote: post #278

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there was no assault though, but reasonable use of force according to MPD police training materials presented in court. In fact they could have escalated it at least two levels to more restricted prone position and use of taser, but they didn't, and called an ambulance several times to expedite it.

The policy of a police department does not supercede the law.

according to the law use of force by police is authorized when effecting a lawful arrest.

this case will go to appeal and possibly the supreme court, as there was significant interference with the jury by the media, and even US representatives calling for violence on the streets to intimidate the jurors.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by hda2 »

solosoyokaze wrote: post #307
Thorentis wrote: post #304

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I think you are the one doing the conflating. You've jumped from "these words are sometimes used" to "these words are used solely for the purpose of expressing racist and homophobic feelings".

> "these words are used solely for the purpose of expressing racist and homophobic feelings". There's no other way to use these words. They're always racist and homophobic. That's the point, /pol is a cesspool of racism and homophobia.

> There's no other way to use these words. They're always racist and homophobic.

The way this thread progressed was very fascinating to read.

First, an absurd baseless generalization was made. Then, when challenged, the generalization was narrowed down a bit. Then it was narrowed down again and again until we got this comment which asserts an outright lie.

These words aren't always used in a racist and homophobic way. 4chan is proof of this.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by hda2 »

krainboltgreene wrote: post #321
seriousquestion wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not recognizing it as trolling and intentional agitation makes it more dangerous. You are taking the bait as the Christchurch shooter intended; One of the goals of his bloodshed, he wrote, was to “agitate the political enemies of my people into action, to cause them to overextend their own hand and experience the eventual and inevitable backlash as a result.” He said he wanted to “incite violence, retaliation and fur…

> Not recognizing it as trolling and intentional agitation makes it more dangerous. I mean this is just flagrantly wrong.

How so?

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by andyxor »

ineedasername wrote: post #301
Blikkentrekker wrote: post #268

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Most boards on 4chan are designated safe for work and racism free, and will quickly earn one a global three day ban for posting pornography and gore. This is very strictly enforced in practice, one doesn't see any nudity or gore remain up on those boards for more than ten minutes before a janitor catches it. Pornography is allowed on all boards that aren't designated “safe for work”, but gore is only allowed on a ver…

Vitriolic hate speech seems to be allowed just about everywhere. Browsing through the first three items in Technology /g/ showed me 2 instances of homophobic and 2 instances of racism. One of them hit both at the same time with " faggot [n-word] ". In general I have much less of a problem with porn or gore than I do with raging hatred.

raging hatred is all over the news though, and pretty much gone mainstream.

have you heard of BLM, it is probably the most racist vile hate movement since the KKK and it's so in vogue right now.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by hda2 »

solosoyokaze wrote: post #310
filoleg wrote: post #309

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I provided an example, the one about an unsolved math problem (the haruhi sequence) that got solved on 4chan and then academically verified to be correct (as well as cited later on in other math research papers). I mentioned it in multiple posts. I never said it was from /pol/, it was from another 4chan board (/sci/). And I also brought up other boards as well, so I don't know what to tell you. You also say that my c…

I'm talking about /pol since that's what the original post was about. You can't move the goalposts to all of 4chan.

This is nonsense.

I have no horse in this race, but the only one moving goal posts here is you.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by matheusmoreira »

causality0 wrote: post #167
zumu wrote: post #158

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> Not surprised he lasted so long at Google. Is it hard to 'last' at google? I have never gotten that impression.

The median tenure of a Google employee is 1.1 years.

Standard deviation?
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