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Re: u/DeepFuckingValue and the GameStop Reddit mania

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Really helps discredit this notion of retail vs hedge fund. Most people who frequently make “DD” posts to r/wsb have ties to the financial industry and Wall Street. They either work there or have worked there. And yet they are critical of the Man? This is like ex-Facebook employees having a found-Jesus moment.

You can hate how the sausage is made and still work at the sausage factory.

You can hate yourself and still be employed, it seems.

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On wsb u/deepfuckingvalue showed he still holds 50,000 shares and 500 deep ITM call options. He has secured a profit of $13.8 million dollars, and his remaining open position is valued at $45 million. I would caution people to not quickly fall into the "if he's still in, I'm still in" meme. He has secured a $14 million bag, regardless if the stock goes to zero he's already secured a life changing amount of money, he…

> The narrative has changed so quickly from this being a value play, to a short squeeze, to now militant activism via buying stock as a means to sticking it to the man.

Absolutely! A week or so ago I watched his July 2020 video (declaring it a great value buy looking for 50-100% at around $4..!!) out of curiousity. Interesting, but totally disconnected from the short squeeze mania, I missed that leap, at least from there to anti-shorters makes more sense (as in 'I understand your position').

Re: u/DeepFuckingValue and the GameStop Reddit mania

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Really helps discredit this notion of retail vs hedge fund. Most people who frequently make “DD” posts to r/wsb have ties to the financial industry and Wall Street. They either work there or have worked there. And yet they are critical of the Man? This is like ex-Facebook employees having a found-Jesus moment.

I worked at a hedge fund as my first job on the IT and Dev side. I will never put my money in a hedge fund. Just the way they spend money to boost the sense of self importance, etc. is nauseating. I once Fedex-ed a ream of printer paper from NYC to a partner on vacation in Miami because he was too entitled to drive to the nearest office supply store. I literally found a store like 10 minutes away but was told to just…

That's because the costs come from OPM. When you work at a prop shop and all the money is literally the money of the employees, things are very different. Sure, everyone makes out like bandits and gets rich if things are going according to plan, but no one, and I mean no one, is wasting money.

If your prop shop blowing up means everyone who works there is now penniless, you tend to get much better results.

Re: u/DeepFuckingValue and the GameStop Reddit mania

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On wsb u/deepfuckingvalue showed he still holds 50,000 shares and 500 deep ITM call options. He has secured a profit of $13.8 million dollars, and his remaining open position is valued at $45 million. I would caution people to not quickly fall into the "if he's still in, I'm still in" meme. He has secured a $14 million bag, regardless if the stock goes to zero he's already secured a life changing amount of money, he…

> militant activism via buying stock as a means to sticking it to the man. > beginning of another stock market crash Hmm sounds like it's working then.. Going off of the resentment against the 'elites' in wsb comments to the tune of "I started broke and I'll go broke again but if the rich go broke..."

Maybe we'll see a new class of financial instrument come out of this. Not sure how it would work but I have to imagine that some clever person on Wall Street can find a way to sell shares of:

> Give me $1 and I'll make sure your target loses $5

Re: u/DeepFuckingValue and the GameStop Reddit mania

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The stock market--just like the economy--is not a zero-sum game. I don't know what to tell you. The S&P500 over the long term has consistently performed quite well, for many decades. Maybe if your picture of participating in the stock market involves day trading, sure, statistically the majority of people who try will break even or come out with a loss. But that's not what financial advisers recommend average people…

Thank you, but I prefer a savings account at my local credit union. I’m sure the interests will amount to something similar as what some random hedgefund manager can conjure by gaming the market. If not, then I can live with it, knowing that what little interest I earned, at least it wasn’t earned by taking profits out of other workers. And in the best case scenario my savings got lent out to other members of my cred…

You're going to have to explain how buying shares === workers earning less because I don't follow.

Re: u/DeepFuckingValue and the GameStop Reddit mania

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Trying to figure out the "fundamental" value of anything is a fools errand. Im not saying GME wont drop eventually but there is no value on fundamentals of everything. Look at all the short-sellers of TSLA who made the same mistake. These companies are valued on what the market decides and we all know "The market is irrational".

To be honest, this is kind of the problem I have to stock investing as a whole. It sounds great to "invest on the fundamentals", but there doesn't appear to be a way for the average person to even comprehend what "the fundamentals" even are. But there has to be at least one fundamental: If the company goes bankrupt, the stock is worth nothing. Gamestop is most certainly going to go bankrupt eventually. Their business…

A trivial (not necessarily smart or optimal, but possible) way for GameStop to avoid that eventuality is to liquidate; close down the business and sell off all the assets - that wouldn't be a bankruptcy, they have more than enough cash and assets to cover their debts, so they would have a nonzero amount of cash left over to distribute to the shareholders.

In essence, you're correct that if the company goes bankrupt, the stock is worth nothing, but you make a mistaken assumption in that a company without a viable business model or future profit must go bankrupt - if they have an asset base, they can restructure or shut down long before their accumulated wealth is spent.

Re: u/DeepFuckingValue and the GameStop Reddit mania

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Is it really anonymous? How does it compare to Tor and i2p?

> Is it really anonymous? It at least aims to be so :) As with any anonymous p2p network you need to know: Your level of privacy depends on your threat level. If the government is after you, they may very well know exploits. If you just want privacy from corporations for perfectly legal reasons then you might be fine. > How does it compare to Tor and i2p? See "How is Freenet different to Tor?" here: https://freenetpr…

>However as they're both communication networks they do not provide censorship-resistance. The endpoints you're connecting to are central servers and can be taken down.

Can you elaborate on this? This reads as essentially false to my understanding. If by endpoints you mean 'relays', those are not 'central servers'. If you mean directory authorities, then yes, those are centralized.

With that said, I'm still not sure what you mean by 'they do not provide censorship-resistance.'

They absolutely have and do provide censorship resistance.

Re: u/DeepFuckingValue and the GameStop Reddit mania

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I worked at a hedge fund as my first job on the IT and Dev side. I will never put my money in a hedge fund. Just the way they spend money to boost the sense of self importance, etc. is nauseating. I once Fedex-ed a ream of printer paper from NYC to a partner on vacation in Miami because he was too entitled to drive to the nearest office supply store. I literally found a store like 10 minutes away but was told to just…

Yes, I was on Wall Street for awhile on trading desks, research etc. I’ve seen how the sausage was made. I only respected very few people with academic credentials who had genuine intellectual curiosity for the markets. Outside of that it’s a jungle and you will get eaten if you don’t watch your back. People steal all the time without any remorse.

buy-side or sell-side? I don't have any exp with working at a fund or a bank, but I work at a prop shop and the atmosphere is markedly different than what people would expect. Money is not wasted, profits are distributed every month in a way such that every employee does very well (some more well then others ofc), and everyone hustles to generate pnl. When you are fully invested (life savings in the firm) you tend to get much better results. On the other hand, if you're using OPM or not even really trading except to rip off dumb businessmen on high spreads, things probably look a lot different.

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> My biggest concern with these plays, at this point, is that they're not taking into account the possibility of bankruptcy. Whose bankruptcy? The WSB crowd are very vocal in their goals of bankrupting hedge funds who have a lot riding on forcing gamespot's stock price to plummet.

The funds. There's an ocean of difference between "we finished the year down 98% but we met all of our obligations" and "we finished the year down 100%, and we also failed to meet our obligations". Those obligations include the repurchase and repayment of short-sold stocks sold by the brokerage. WSB wants a short squeeze. They got that. But, their theory is that it isn't over, and if they get the 10x+ returns in the…

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