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Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by gruturo »

T-hawk wrote: post #189
eplanit wrote: post #121

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By Springtime (in 45-60 days) we'll be at the one year mark, fatigued by masks, rules, shutdowns, and authoritarians, in general. The news will be tedious about how many are being vaccinated (it will be a lot) -- and, the weather will turn warmer. Then, many/most will say _fuck it_, I'm taking my life back. I'm visualizing that day, and will welcome it.

I said "fuck it, I'm taking my life back" months ago. And then I realized how little that is possible. How are you going to protest your way into a concert that isn't performing? How are you going to demand your way into a university that isn't teaching? How are you going to riot your way into a Disneyland that isn't running? How are you going to force your way into a sports stadium that isn't playing? How are you go…

> We are no longer ever allowed to make personal risk management decisions.

Your freedom borders with mine - you should be allowed to do EVERYTHING which doesn't affect others without their consent.

Ignoring COVID-19 precautionary measures isn't one of those things, and I am happy the joy-destroying authoritarian overlords took that choice from you.

Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by jcims »

nradov wrote: post #161
jcims wrote: post #70

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I'm no expert but I'll share what I've learned so far, YMMV. >Can someone help me understand the difference between this and other vaccines? Here are the traditional vaccine types: https://www.vaccines.gov/basics/types COVID-19 vaccines are all (to my knowledge) a new type called an 'mRNA vaccine' - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different... These are basically the same as the 'subunit' type of v…

There are a variety of COVID-19 vaccines either already approved or in the pipeline in various countries. Only some of them are mRNA vaccines, notably the one from Moderna. Others are based on older technology.

Thank you! I just found this tracker that lays it out: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus...

Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by makomk »

midasuni wrote: post #249
wcchandler wrote: post #59

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.7 * 331m =~ 231m. If we average 1 million per day, we have 231 days to go, which is Aug 25th.

1m a day seems low for the US. U.K. is current or around the 400k a day mark and that’s with 1/6 the population.

The UK has something like the 4th most Covid-19 vaccinations per capita of any country in the world, and the gap between it and other western countries is quite big from what I recall. (All the countries with more are much smaller, meaning that they could achieve that with a much smaller vaccination program and fewer doses than would be necessary to do the same in other countries.)

Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by Vinceo »

guscost wrote: post #182
amluto wrote: post #160

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Let’s grant that one thinks that the various COVID restrictions are a danger to free civilization. How exactly does this translate to getting a vaccine being a danger to free civilization?

It’s all wrapped up in the same context. Wear the mask, get the vaccine, trust the science, and we will un-person you if you question any of it . The last part is the problem!

The funny thing is that a lot of the measures are based on either bad science or not science at all. Still, the masses will tell you to fall in line and accept the meaaures because "science says so". If you ask them to explain the scientific method on the spot 99% won't be able to do so. No wonder why they're so easily fooled. The "experts" are the new priests and science is the new religion. And don't you dare question it.

Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by odessacubbage »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #226
chrisco255 wrote: post #198

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For large portion of the population, it isn't. 99.9+% for many demographics. I'm not interested in it personally, as one of my dad's coworkers got Bell's palsy from the vaccine. Given my age and risk profile, the vaccine isn't worth it.

Nevermind the people who you infect and kill, you can’t be blamed for that, right?

why is it the the responsibility for low risk individuals to put their lives on hold indefinitely so that high risk individuals can live recklessly? the elderly and the immunocompromised were at risk long before covid and they will be at risk post covid too. i cannot stop boomers from being dumb and selfish and acting with utter disregard for their own safety and 10+ months operating with an excess of caution and doing everything right were rendered utterly meaningless because they got me sick.

Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by sneak »

swarnie_ wrote: post #275
sneak wrote: post #261

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Yeah, in Q3 I was really hoping to be on an airplane this summer. I realized in December or early January that due to the insane mismanagement it's going to ruin this summer too, and it'll likely be Q3 of this year before travel is really safe or reasonable again.

If only you had some form of centralised health infrastructure to help co-ordinate this program. Didn't some US politician try this not too long ago?

The US already has plenty of centralized health infrastructure (and did before Obama); this comment is a (partisan pot shot) red herring, and completely irrelevant to the vaccine distribution clusterfuck.

The issue is not lack of infrastructure, it's gross incompetence of the regional authorities who are responsible for distributing the vaccine.

If you thought the federal government sucked, wait until you see how bad the states are.

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Post by boruto »

perardi wrote: post #22

I had a bit of a frustrating experience getting my elderly parents signed up for a jab today. They are patients of a local hospital conglomerate. (I realize that’s typical in the States, Kaiser et al., but I’ve been living in Ontario, where you’re not wedded to some particular chain.) The hospital system said they’d notify patients who qualify, which both of my parents do, in spades. Dad was just in the ICU, during t…

uhh., Where I am from they are sending a snail mail with the invite letter.

Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by pelasaco »

kuschku wrote: post #313
pelasaco wrote: post #309

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because we paid already for an unlimited arcgis license, we have an arcgis dashboard for that too: https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/db557289b13c42e4ac3...

It’s hilarious how by default the map includes all of Austria, but not even all of Germany (half of Schleswig-Holstein is missing in the default zoom/pan on first load). Shows the priorities of the developers, lol

you mean, Bayern first? I didn't notice that, but probably.

Re: 18.7 Million Americans Vaccinated

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Post by makomk »

pelasaco wrote: post #271

Great news, 5% of the population already. That shows me how my home country - Germany, which was once saw as example on the fight against COVID-19 - still far behind. We only vaccinated 1.8% of our population. I wonder if the credits of a good rollout and access to such amount of vaccine will be given to the Trump administration as it should be?

Of course they won't be. The US press will just keep on pushing the narrative that the US was failing on vaccination compared to the rest of the world and it was all Trump's fault, regardless of the facts, just like they did with Covid-19 mass testing after the US started doing better than everyone else at that last spring sometime. That went on for almost a year until it finally helped get him kicked out of office like they'd hoped.

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Post by pelasaco »

anovikov wrote: post #308
pelasaco wrote: post #302

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"These concerns" are what we call Fundamental rights. I don't think we should throw them out of the window.

it will work easily: nations that do it first, will be so rapidly outcompeting others, in a few years everyone will see there is no choice.

Sorry, you mean nations that kill democracy are going to out compete the others?
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