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Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

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Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

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For individuals Dropbox is quite expensive compared to services like OneDrive. Microsoft 365 Personal is 70$/year and gives you 1TB on OneDrive and full access to the Office offering. Dropbox for individuals is 200$/year for 3TB. And nothing else. Unless you're hoarding data or want to avoid Microsoft, the choice is simple. And I'm sure you have even cheaper services.

> Unless you're hoarding data or want to avoid Microsoft ...or have access to a licensed copy of the "real" Microsoft Office, the desktop app, which doesn't lag (that much), where all keyboard shortcuts work, drag-and-drop isn't too surprising, and you can use over a slow/metered/non-existent connection (bus, train, airplane), so you don't really care about Office 365. Or you use it for something other than Word, Exc…

You can still use office desktop with office 365

Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

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you know what doesn’t get talked about: severence. why do we need it? why do employers give it? should one negotiate it? what is fair/unfair?

> why do we need it? Because we don't have a social safety net in the United States, so getting laid off could make you instantly destitute. > why do employers give it? To maintain their community reputation. In the future when they hire again, it's easier to paper over a layoff if you can show that you tried to take care of the employees. Also because it's the ethical thing to do. > should one negotiate it? Usually…

what is a scenario where the employee would have leverage in a layoff? it’s hard to imagine except if something unethical/wrongful was going on leading up the layoff: sexual harassment, discrimination

Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

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post #315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For individuals Dropbox is quite expensive compared to services like OneDrive. Microsoft 365 Personal is 70$/year and gives you 1TB on OneDrive and full access to the Office offering. Dropbox for individuals is 200$/year for 3TB. And nothing else. Unless you're hoarding data or want to avoid Microsoft, the choice is simple. And I'm sure you have even cheaper services.

> Unless you're hoarding data or want to avoid Microsoft ...or have access to a licensed copy of the "real" Microsoft Office, the desktop app, which doesn't lag (that much), where all keyboard shortcuts work, drag-and-drop isn't too surprising, and you can use over a slow/metered/non-existent connection (bus, train, airplane), so you don't really care about Office 365. Or you use it for something other than Word, Exc…

> ...or have access to a licensed copy of the "real" Microsoft Office, the desktop app, which doesn't lag (that much), where all keyboard shortcuts work, drag-and-drop isn't too surprising, and you can use over a slow/metered/non-existent connection (bus, train, airplane), so you don't really care about Office 365.

Microsoft 365 allows you to download the desktop app versions of Office. No need for an internet connection after that.

Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

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I interviewed with Dropbox before their IPO. It felt like an old company that everyone is coasting. I wonder how young companies get to that point so quickly?

By not innovating in new products would be my guess. Dropbox is their product and? There's "Corporate Dropbox" and that's it?

I think that's a good thing though. The last thing I want is dropbox to 'innovate'. They are already trying too hard by forcing you to have windows explorer integration which slows the crap out of my machine.

I am overall very happy with Dropbox and we use them because of what they are- a file syncing company. If they become more, it will surely be at the expense of simple file syncing which is all I want from them.

Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

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The issue with this approach is that the company then leaves itself vulnerable to a big brain drain. If the bulk of those volunteers end up being your best seniors/leads who know they can just go down the street and pick up another job at comparable comp all while getting a cozy three month vacation that you're bankrolling...well, it's easy to see how you could be left in a much worse position imo.

The high performers, the people who make money for the company, are rarely the first to be let go.

Correct, which is why it's not ideal to allow folks to volunteer for severance as the GP suggested. The company wants to choose who to let go to avoid putting themselves in a worse spot afterwards.

Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

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This is interesting because having layoffs at a company that should be going off like a rocket during a pandemic is odd. What is going on at Dropbox that prevented them from taking advantage of the huge shift to remote work?

For individuals Dropbox is quite expensive compared to services like OneDrive. Microsoft 365 Personal is 70$/year and gives you 1TB on OneDrive and full access to the Office offering. Dropbox for individuals is 200$/year for 3TB. And nothing else. Unless you're hoarding data or want to avoid Microsoft, the choice is simple. And I'm sure you have even cheaper services.

Dropbox actually still has a $9.99/mo (if billed anually) 2TB plan for individuals. Still not the cheapest price-wise, but not unreasonable.

Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

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post #315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For individuals Dropbox is quite expensive compared to services like OneDrive. Microsoft 365 Personal is 70$/year and gives you 1TB on OneDrive and full access to the Office offering. Dropbox for individuals is 200$/year for 3TB. And nothing else. Unless you're hoarding data or want to avoid Microsoft, the choice is simple. And I'm sure you have even cheaper services.

> Unless you're hoarding data or want to avoid Microsoft ...or have access to a licensed copy of the "real" Microsoft Office, the desktop app, which doesn't lag (that much), where all keyboard shortcuts work, drag-and-drop isn't too surprising, and you can use over a slow/metered/non-existent connection (bus, train, airplane), so you don't really care about Office 365. Or you use it for something other than Word, Exc…

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Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

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Most of the people do need to find a ways to share files more efficiently, but hardly any sane company would choose Dropbox given their security proposal.

For any given technology or service, given the choice between the cheapest consumer option and a reliable enterprise option that costs 50% more, most small businesses will choose the consumer option every time.

Which would be OneDrive

Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

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I actually just moved all my stuff from Dropbox to B2 buckets. My December bill was like $0.09

I'm interested in moving off Dropbox in the same way, and B2 sounds interesting. Is there an app comparable to Dropbox working with B2, or did you have to build that app yourself?

Not the parent, but you can do this with Nextcloud. It supports using object storage as a backend, and B2 is compatible with S3.

Re: Dropbox to cut 11% of its global workforce

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue with this approach is that the company then leaves itself vulnerable to a big brain drain. If the bulk of those volunteers end up being your best seniors/leads who know they can just go down the street and pick up another job at comparable comp all while getting a cozy three month vacation that you're bankrolling...well, it's easy to see how you could be left in a much worse position imo.

The high performers, the people who make money for the company, are rarely the first to be let go.

The point is they might be the first ones to voluntarily leave.
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