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Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Post by radlad »

Nacdor wrote: post #150
dleslie wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost like there was some sort of catalyst event that occurred very recently that would provoke such a response. /s

I'm curious why so many Democrats were allowed to encourage the BLM riots (more than 25 dead, $2 billion in property damage) without so much as a peep from Google, Twitter, Facebook or any other tech giant. Kamala Harris said "they should not stop" and helped with a bail fund for the people who were involved with them. I think protest is a fundamental requirement of democracy, and as Chris Cuomo himself reminded us:…

A few differences I see:

- BLM was not trying to replace our government with a new one. (aka a protest is not a sedition)

- Many BLM protesters were arrested. Some were charged with crimes. Similarly, any seditionists should be charged. This is probably true whether you agree with the final verdict or not

- Those at the capitol essentially held hundreds of lawmakers hostage, using guns and at least one pipe bomb, while Trump said nothing for approximately 2 hours

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Post by pjc50 »

djsumdog wrote: post #132
post_break wrote: post #4

Wow, is this the great purge? I don’t support certain people, but man I don’t think this is going to end well. This censorship just seems crazy to me.

The purge has been happening for years. I hate how people on HN is praising this. There are literally few alternatives for the average person apart from Google and eyeProducts. I have a PinePhone, but what percentage of America can truly put in the effort to use one? If you cannot install an run your own software on a device, you do not own the device. You cannot praise the removal of Gab or Parlor now and complain l…

Other way round: anyone on the left is used to unfair treatment. The app reporting drone strike locations was banned years ago. Apple caused tumblr to self-destruct. Just this time the policy is actually in our favor.

Unlimited incitement to violence is not sustainable. Banning them for this is the start; America is going to have a long uncomfortable process of dealing with its media.

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Post by vimy »

indrax wrote: post #206
Nacdor wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious why so many Democrats were allowed to encourage the BLM riots (more than 25 dead, $2 billion in property damage) without so much as a peep from Google, Twitter, Facebook or any other tech giant. Kamala Harris said "they should not stop" and helped with a bail fund for the people who were involved with them. I think protest is a fundamental requirement of democracy, and as Chris Cuomo himself reminded us:…

One difference is that nonviolent protestors were being gassed and arrested. I see nothing strange in an American politician saying that nonviolent civil rights protests should not stop.

More often than not the police was told to stand down.

Does no one wonder why Trump got 9 million votes more than 2016 and doubled his minority vote? The democrats encouraging and downplaying the riots is why.

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Post by bargl »

236dev wrote: post #219
bargl wrote: post #42

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It's legal for entities outside the government to censor things. IANAL so if I'm wrong let me know. But my understanding is that censorship is perfectly fine for any company.

It also use to be legal to deny people based on their skin color. Just because something is legal doesn't make it right.

And the laws changed. Hopefully we'll see that. We can't expect companies to be our moral compass.

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Post by ng12 »

danijelb wrote: post #281
ng12 wrote: post #178

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Google and Apple have a duopoly. In the wake of 2016 we collectively agreed that Big Tech has the ability to influence elections, now is the time to think about how to protect our democracy. My take is simple: either treat social media conglomerates like we do telecom or break them up like we did AT&T.

I agree with breaking up companies which are monopolies/duopolies. But why do you think that those broken up companies wouldn't behave the same in this case (ban Trump, Parler, etc). If that's what the majority of users want, then such decisions increase their profit. If there was 5 mobile OS/store companies today, I'm pretty sure the same would happen on all 5.

I agree, it's probably wishful thinking. My hope would be that "we don't ban anything that's not explicitly illegal" would be a profitable stance for at least one of the competing app stores.

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Post by djsumdog »

nathankunicki wrote: post #103
post_break wrote: post #4

Wow, is this the great purge? I don’t support certain people, but man I don’t think this is going to end well. This censorship just seems crazy to me.

Newspapers and magazines have always had a choice who or what to print in their papers. TV and radio stations have always had a choice who or what to air. Why shouldn't social media companies have the same liberties?

But it's different. There was a time when anyone could start a newspaper. There was a time when people had FM transmitters in their backyard. It became more expensive and the FCC started slicing up FM spectrum so everyone wouldn't trample over each other.

Media was once free and then collapse to be owned by ABC, NBC, CBS and a few dozen newspapers.

This was originally about network neutrality, but it applies to what we're seeing right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP_3WnJ42kw

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Post by Thorentis »

QuixoticQuibit wrote: post #181
f430 wrote: post #76

isn't anybody else creeped out by this??

No. We need to deplatform these fascist lunatics. They trust live in an alternate universe where killing politicians and cops is okay.

I seem to remember another group calling for the killing of politicians and cops recently. Huge protests, rioting, burning down police precincts. Some three letter acronym I can't remember...

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Post by idiot900 »

Nacdor wrote: post #150
dleslie wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost like there was some sort of catalyst event that occurred very recently that would provoke such a response. /s

I'm curious why so many Democrats were allowed to encourage the BLM riots (more than 25 dead, $2 billion in property damage) without so much as a peep from Google, Twitter, Facebook or any other tech giant. Kamala Harris said "they should not stop" and helped with a bail fund for the people who were involved with them. I think protest is a fundamental requirement of democracy, and as Chris Cuomo himself reminded us:…

> why so many Democrats were allowed to encourage the BLM riots

With regard to prominent Democratic politicians, this is factually untrue. They (and me) are good with peaceful protest, whether BLM or MAGA. There is absolutely no problem with peaceful pro-Trump protestors.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-kamala-harris-l...

The invasion of the Capitol was not a peaceful protest - it was an insurrection.

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Post by blisterpeanuts »

enraged_camel wrote: post #199
kortilla wrote: post #141

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That’s an excuse, not the reason. Blocking parler does jack shit in stopping people’s ability to coordinate violence. Mass texts, email chains, WhatsApp, signal, 4chan boards, etc are all there.

>>Blocking parler does jack shit in stopping people’s ability to coordinate violence. It definitely helps. Just because people can coordinate using other mediums is not an argument against making it more difficult for them.

How does it help? Parler's terms of service ban calls for violence.

The simple explanation is usually the correct one: Parler's growing so fast that it simply can't keep up with policing the content. They need to add a lot more moderators and things will calm down.

Google and Apple are making a mistake.

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