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Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by Bodell »

randallsquared wrote: post #272
Bodell wrote: post #188

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I’m very glad you brought up weed actually. See I have no problem with weed and like to smoke a joint every now and then. However what I don’t want is to have to buy weed called dumb things like “bro down”, “the obliterator”, and “brain destroyer”. I’d much rather you just named something not so click baity. Sure it’s just a chemical. Everything is just chemicals but I don’t need “meth” for my computer. Same reason o…

The application keeps one's Mac from going to sleep. Its name is basically a direct analogy, and doesn't imply any wrongdoing or illegality, as far as I can see. > I also would not buy your product if it were called alcohol poisoning. I love alcohol. I’m drinking a beer right now (happy New Years everyone). But naming a computer program after it sounds like an odd thing to do. And more to your point would also be a v…

I don't think it implies wrongdoing, just sounds like a silly joke.

Scotch vs scotch whiskey is more of a word play joke as well than a direct analogy. But I see your point and your totally right that one sounds less bad to me. I'm only stating that as a matter of taste I do not like this particular apps name.

And since it's apple's store they have the right to not like it either. I just don't think this is a profound "free speech argument" like some do in these comments.

Personally I think it's really odd that someone would need an app to keep their computer from sleeping. This says far more about macs than the arbitrary naming policy.

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Post by danso »

niekverw wrote: post #161

Caffeinate is a default terminal command in Macos for a few years already, what's the purpose of caffeine and amphetamine? ..

In the U.S., caffeine is not a highly regulated substance. You can buy it without limits in concentrated pill form, or in coffee and cola. By contrast, amphetamine is regulated as a Schedule 2 controlled substance [0], i.e approved for medical use but considered to have "high potential for abuse". Opioids like fentanyl are also in Schedule 2.

[0] https://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/

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Post by webmobdev »

wincy wrote: post #229
Bodell wrote: post #119

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Honestly if your name your product stupid things I would think that some of us might be choosing not to download your product as a result. And if a store decides not to sell your product because of this it’s really their prerogative. Saying you violated their terms with impunity for 6 years doesn’t mean they lose the right to correct the mistake. This name is pretty rings rather badly in my ears, though I’m not offen…

I know a very intelligent software engineer who told me he had never used Exercism (despite him using other similar tools) simply because he’s a practicing Catholic and thought the name to be in poor taste. You definitely alienate people at the fringes by naming things something even slightly risqué.

And do you really want Apple to be the arbitrator of such silly things?

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Post by zepto »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #244
bdcravens wrote: post #200

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Every time I post that link it gets downvoted. Yet every time I post it, it's in response to someone implying Apple is uniquely evil. I certainly don't feel they deserve a pass, but it's such a ubiquitous problem that it's almost pointless to use as a talking point. (It's like saying Politician X is inherently bad because they accept corporate money)

> implying Apple is uniquely evil. It's not that they're uniquely evil, rather that they don't have the moral authority to lecture.

Who are they lecturing on what?

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Post by smnrchrds »

ufmace wrote: post #278
smnrchrds wrote: post #234

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Aren't HOAs widely hated?

No. Certain internet communities have a culture of dunking on them, but they do not represent any kind of real majority. The housing market continues to show a preference towards communities with HOAs.

> The housing market continues to show a preference towards communities with HOAs.

Is it the housing market as homeowners who favours HOAs, or is it the builders who favour them? Are HOAs opted in by homeowners in existing communities because of their benefits, or do builders create them force them upon new communities because it benefits them somehow?

I am asking because while I do not have any knowledge of HOAs, I have been following the saga of rental water heaters/furnaces/ACs in Ontario for a while. Long story short, construction companies sign a long-term contract with an appliance company instead of buying and installing necessary appliances like furnaces for new houses. They get a nice kickback for this. If you want to buy a new house, odds are you will be bound by a long-term contact. If you want to terminate it early, you end up paying 30k for an appliance that is worth 10k new and installed. If you keep your contact, you will pay the same over many years.

It is a deal that is very much to the benefits of the builder and very much against the interest of the homeowners. But they have been exploding in popularity. There are relatively more and more homes with rented water heaters and fewer and fewer homes with owned water heaters every year. It would still be wrong to conclude that "water heater rental is beneficial. See, the market has spoken."

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Post by KingMachiavelli »

excerionsforte wrote: post #225

Might as well call it Poison Pill. What a waste of energy on Apple's part and a perfect grounds for a lawsuit. Apple approved this app with no problems and all of a sudden there is a problem where nothing has changed. Take them to court and dispute it. I assure you they will not be able to prove that this app violates the contract that was agreed to. What I see here as complacency on peoples' part here is ridiculous.…

It is almost a certainty that the Apple's ToS mandates arbitration instead of a real court and definitely allows them to remove an app at any time for any reason. There is no reason for Apple to not CTA in their ToS since developers have no where else to go.

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Post by ineedasername »

xiphias2 wrote: post #147
sschueller wrote: post #78

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No, how will this ever fix a corrupt system if you play by their rules? This is why it keeps getting worse and worse. People just comply!

You change it by going for the weakest point in a peaceful way under the radar. I believe it's Bitcoin, which is a silent, non-violent libertarian protest against the whole central banking system that produces huge powers, but I know that I am in the minority.

This situation would not be solved by a change of payment mechanism, currency choice, monetary policy, or anything like that. It's not what makes Apple a large powerful corporation. The entire world could switch to bitcoin, but if millions of people still buy iPhones, Apple will still have power over what is done on those phones.

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Post by pixelatedindex »

warent wrote: post #219
bambax wrote: post #210

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> I’m not offended by the word “fuck” but I don’t really want to buy products that are named that. Then don't. How is this relevant? They say the app has been downloaded 500,000 times, so many people are fine with the name. These stories keep coming; they should remind us that nothing is more precious than the open web, and all those stores or walled gardens, their "rules" and vague TOS are the ennemy.

In my mind maybe this is something like an HOA. Sure, your friends might love your house parties, but your neighbors have to deal with the consequences

Except in this case there are no “neighbors” to speak of. Every app is kind of like an island in an archipelago and don’t have a means of communicating to each other.

It’s more like the government of the archipelago decided that they don’t like the name of the island as people interested in such an island are promoting narcotics.

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