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Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This one is also a particularly terrible move: >“ Because those required wage increases take effect this week, existing H-1B holders looking to renew their visas might not qualify unless their employers raise their salaries accordingly.” Copying from my comment below, this is likely to backfire. Since remote work has become acceptable and they already know the ins and outs of the job, many of these folks losing their…

> Since remote work has become acceptable and they already know the ins and outs of the job, many of these folks losing their visa will just be allowed to work remotely from India or Canada where it's trivial to get a work visa if you have a job offer. You will not be granted a work permit to work remotely for an American company in Canada. Canadian Immigration is actually quite strict.

There's no prohibition for remote work per se. The American company just needs to set up its legal presence in Canada since only Canadian companies can sponsor immigrants. That would still be a barrier to small companies so I expect the PEO (Professional Employment Organization) industry to come up with a way to make this possible at any scale. And that's before Canada changes IRCC regs to help this use case, which they could very well do.

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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Fair trade policy has consistently been the one thing on which I agree with the Trump presidency. It hasn't been enough to outweigh all the other absolutely horrible stuff, but it is one thing. I am concerned that Biden will return us to the old days of "free" trade that allows corporations to import totalitarianism via near-slave or even actual slave (see Uyghur prisoners and forced labor) wage arbitrage to crush do…

This undecided voter would appreciate the gesture of you sharing with me some examples of the “other absolutely horrible stuff”.

The three worst are: normalization of racism after 50 years of steadily decreasing racism in America, terrible COVID response responsible for 100,000+ deaths in excess of what average countries have achieved, and vast corruption that has destroyed hundreds-of-years-old norms on presidential conduct (Secret Service forced to buy rooms at Mar A Lago, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs participating in a political stunt in uniform, political campaign letter included in food boxes, etc).

The election is basically that of a homeowner deciding whether he wants the guy who is spraying a flamethrower into every corner of his house, or an empty cardboard box. If you loathe your house and want it destroyed, the flamethrower guy is who you want. Just be careful, there’s no insurance check when the house burns to the ground.

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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Eh. I think that's a little unfair on us HNers. I have seen comments like that. But I've also seen a lot of comments about how the H1b visas should be more flexible and widely available so as to give visa holders more freedom.

the problem is that those comments are never downvoted. they are ALWAYS upvoted.

so is it unfair to say a community that mostly upvotes plain xenophobic comments has an issue?

and it's not from now -- i've been here for a while and every single time h1b is mentioned, there are upvoted comments saying weird stuff that is never removed.

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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Overall, I really support these changes. However, this piece really struck me as a big mistake: "Under the changes, an applicant must have a college degree in the specific field in which he or she is looking to work. A software developer, for example, wouldn’t be awarded an H-1B visa if that person has a degree in electrical engineering." Some of the best software engineers I know are graduate degree holders from neu…

This one is also a particularly terrible move: >“ Because those required wage increases take effect this week, existing H-1B holders looking to renew their visas might not qualify unless their employers raise their salaries accordingly.” Copying from my comment below, this is likely to backfire. Since remote work has become acceptable and they already know the ins and outs of the job, many of these folks losing their…

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Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This one is also a particularly terrible move: >“ Because those required wage increases take effect this week, existing H-1B holders looking to renew their visas might not qualify unless their employers raise their salaries accordingly.” Copying from my comment below, this is likely to backfire. Since remote work has become acceptable and they already know the ins and outs of the job, many of these folks losing their…

> Since remote work has become acceptable and they already know the ins and outs of the job, many of these folks losing their visa will just be allowed to work remotely from India or Canada where it's trivial to get a work visa if you have a job offer. You will not be granted a work permit to work remotely for an American company in Canada. Canadian Immigration is actually quite strict.

My understanding is that Canadian residency isn't particularly strict, but Canadian citizenship is very strict. Besides, most of the companies in question (e.g. Amazon, Google, Microsoft, etc) already have subsidiaries operating in Canada so employment via the Canadian subsidiary is not an issue.

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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What is the threshold limit for H1B wages as per new rule?

Old Wages

Level 1 - 17th percentile

Level 2 - 34th percentile

Level 3 - 50th percentile

Level 4 - 67th percentile

New Wages

Level 1 - 45th percentile

Level 2 - 62nd percentile

Level 3 - 78th percentile

Level 4 - 95th percentile

Source: https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/ETA/oflc/pdfs/DOL-Int...

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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Overall, I really support these changes. However, this piece really struck me as a big mistake: "Under the changes, an applicant must have a college degree in the specific field in which he or she is looking to work. A software developer, for example, wouldn’t be awarded an H-1B visa if that person has a degree in electrical engineering." Some of the best software engineers I know are graduate degree holders from neu…

That just means there'll be fast track CS programs pop up (They already exist - I have a friend who had a degree in hospitality management, who did an online master's program in CS in about 18 months, and she can't write a line of code today)

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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Overall, I really support these changes. However, this piece really struck me as a big mistake: "Under the changes, an applicant must have a college degree in the specific field in which he or she is looking to work. A software developer, for example, wouldn’t be awarded an H-1B visa if that person has a degree in electrical engineering." Some of the best software engineers I know are graduate degree holders from neu…

This one is also a particularly terrible move: >“ Because those required wage increases take effect this week, existing H-1B holders looking to renew their visas might not qualify unless their employers raise their salaries accordingly.” Copying from my comment below, this is likely to backfire. Since remote work has become acceptable and they already know the ins and outs of the job, many of these folks losing their…

That wouldn't be considered backfiring if this was being done to move the US closer to an ethnostate.

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

#329

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This one is also a particularly terrible move: >“ Because those required wage increases take effect this week, existing H-1B holders looking to renew their visas might not qualify unless their employers raise their salaries accordingly.” Copying from my comment below, this is likely to backfire. Since remote work has become acceptable and they already know the ins and outs of the job, many of these folks losing their…

> Since remote work has become acceptable and they already know the ins and outs of the job, many of these folks losing their visa will just be allowed to work remotely from India. This means the US economy will lose all the taxes and local expenditure in the economy like rent, food, travel, vacations, utilities, cars, home sales, etc. etc. And if that works out, the next hire may just be directly hired in India itse…

> Companies looking to save money would hire in the foreign country regardless of the new rules.

You're going to get people who are already productive for the company moving willingly to lower expense parts of the world, while continuing to be identical in disruption to someone moving to Wisconsin.

Companies (more importantly managers) do care about hiring locally, since they have a lot of opportunities to on-board, evaluate and guide - however, once they're all baked in, the shift is less of a concern for the companies.

"Hiring in a foreign country" is different from "We save 18k/employee if they move to Canada and they want to!".

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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Overall, I really support these changes. However, this piece really struck me as a big mistake: "Under the changes, an applicant must have a college degree in the specific field in which he or she is looking to work. A software developer, for example, wouldn’t be awarded an H-1B visa if that person has a degree in electrical engineering." Some of the best software engineers I know are graduate degree holders from neu…

Useless policy. This will only create a market for schools with easy-to-obtain degrees.

They already exist. I have a friend who did an online masters in CS in about 18 months, and she's not qualified to be a junior dev.
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