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Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by microcolonel » Sat, Oct 03, 2020, 1:38 AM UTC

Gaelan wrote: post #312

w0mbat wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The skinny, slippery, round cornered, black AppleTV remote seems to be designed to be as easily lost as possible. Weeks often go by without finding it, during which we use other streaming devices instead. The Amazon FireTV remote is quite easy to lose, but I stocked up on spares when it was on sale for $15. The TiVo remote is not only too big to lose, it has a remote-finder feature where you can induce it to play a t…

If you have an iPhone, it can function as an Apple TV remote.

They don't even have an Android app? wtf.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by amelius » Sat, Oct 03, 2020, 1:40 AM UTC

In Soviet Russia, the TV watches you.

Anyway, when is it that we finally ban targeted ads?

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by yarg » Sat, Oct 03, 2020, 1:46 AM UTC

TomGullen wrote: post #98

Lone voice here I guess - I have a mid/high range Samsung TV and love it. Picture quality is brilliant and it looks good on the wall. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an advert on it from Samsung - where are they appearing exactly? I just switch between terrestrial TV and various apps like Netflix and Amazon on the bottom navigation bar and don’t think I’ve ever seen one. Might be wrong though!

Samsung's hardware capabilities are impressive - quantum dot active matrix displays (for example) present a technology that is fundamentally superior to anything they compete with.

However, they seem to be rampantly anti-consumer - not only selling user data, but overcharging on everything they sell.

They also hobble their hardware with software designed by a bunch of shit-flinging monkeys.

They're also perfectly happy to engage in whatever legally dubious practices that they can get away with.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by hda2 » Sat, Oct 03, 2020, 1:55 AM UTC

DivisionSol wrote: post #147

hda2 wrote: post #109

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What the fuck. I remember the "Please drink a verification can" joke that was floating around a few years back. Didn't think we'd be here so soon. Can you just use an old headphone with an audio slider and mute the ad that way? Either way, Spotify is now on my list of nope services.

Wanted to comment on this. I see this very differently than the Samsung situation. Spotify provides music for ads, unless you pat the subscription. I am not offended that Spotify would do this for their “free”/ad-supported users. I pay for Spotify, I get no ads. That’s the way it’s supposed to be.

> I pay for Spotify, I get no ads. That’s the way it’s supposed to be.

And how long do you think this will last before they decide insert ads into paid subscriptions? Cable TV did it. "Full-price" games are doing it. TVs are doing it. It would be extremely naive to assume that spotify won't do it at some point.

Besides, my admittedly poorly-expressed objection is not to the ads themself but to the way people are being forced to listen to them by the company. There is no way in hell I'm supporting companies that engage in crap like this.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by m463 » Sat, Oct 03, 2020, 2:03 AM UTC

kelleyk wrote: post #222

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #104

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> If you own an Internet-connected TV, you've been seeing these for 2 years or more How to prevent all Samsung tracking and advertising: 1. Factory reset your Samsung TV. 2. When promoted to accept the Samsung EULA, select no/reject 3. Attach computer or streaming stick to Samsung HDMI port (Windows, mac, chromebook, appleTV, chromecast, Amazon Firestick, Roku stick). I use an ancient PC with Linux Mint installed. Yo…

_Can_ you reject Samsung's EULA? My Q90T prompts me to accept it every time it's turned on, but the only option appears to be to accept it. I can't find a "no/reject" option. I do what you suggest in step (3), and never connect it the TV to a network, but it's still concerning.

Is it a pre-gdpr model? When GDPR went through a lot of companies changed... slightly...

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by m463 » Sat, Oct 03, 2020, 2:05 AM UTC

centimeter wrote: post #199

overlordalex wrote: post #166

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There's reports of some models connecting to any open wifi networks, which would include your neighbours. And it's only a matter of time until they come with built-in sim cards

Recent model toyota vehicles come with a "telematics" unit with a built-in SIM card that sends GPS data, driving data, video from the front camera, etc. to Toyota and the "agreement" in the manual says they can do ~whatever they want with it. If you power down the telematics module (by removing the fuse), the carplay microphone doesn't work (because the microphone runs through the telematics module). If you remove or…

Nissan does this too. and it can do voice. However disconnecting it didn't change the way the car worked.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by mewse » Sat, Oct 03, 2020, 2:05 AM UTC

microcolonel wrote: post #321

Gaelan wrote: post #312

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If you have an iPhone, it can function as an Apple TV remote.

They don't even have an Android app? wtf.

There are dozens of apps on Android which can act as a remote for an AppleTV.

You can also use any bog standard universal remote control, if you have an old one of those kicking around somewhere. (I use a cheap old Logitech Harmony remote, for example)

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by m463 » Sat, Oct 03, 2020, 2:16 AM UTC

stallmanite wrote: post #160

troydavis wrote: post #34

If you own an Internet-connected TV, you've been seeing these for 2 years or more. I submitted it 11 months ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21427405 ) and it wasn't new then. The ACR-based retargeting audiences ( https://www.samsung.com/us/business/samsungads/resources/tv-... ) are probably the most offensive. For example: "Reach viewers who saw your competitor’s ads as quickly as 60 seconds after linear a…

So if I’m using a Samsung TV as a monitor and working on sensitive or classified material the damn thing is taking screenshots and uploading them? Yikes

It's funny, but I bought a dell monitor and I downloaded the manuals.

One of them was an unexpected white paper, which contained this statement:

  Statement of Volatility – Dell U3219Q Monitor

  The purpose of this document is to certify that the Dell
  U3219Q monitor will not save, retain, or reproduce a signal
  to any internal or external component after power has been
  removed and reapplied to the unit.

  The Dell U3219Q monitor contains both volatile and
  non-volatile (NV) memory ICs. Volatile memory(s) lose their
  data immediately upon removal of power. Non-volatile memory
  ICs continue to retain their data even after the power has
  been removed. However, no input video data is written into
  these memory ICs during operation.

  List below contains volatile and non volatile memory ICs
  used in the Dell U3219Q monitor."

Then it had a table for each storage chip within the monitor with its purpose and characteristics including:

  - system eeprom
  - hdmi edid eeprom
  - system flash rom 
  - usb hub eeprom
  - pd controller flash rom

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by m463 » Sat, Oct 03, 2020, 2:23 AM UTC

petepete wrote: post #218

junon wrote: post #27

I had one of those TVs. The ads show up in the menu bar. I called them and told them I paid over a thousand dollars for this TV and do not want ads. They said they'd be happy to help me disable my internet connection. I was so dumbfounded at the petty response that I simply hung up. Lost a customer for life. I will never again buy a Samsung product.

I wrote this guide a few years ago, hopefully you'll find it useful. These days a Pi-Hole will do the trick. https://gist.github.com/peteryates/b44b70d19ccd52f62d66cdd4b...

Note that pi-hole is dns-based. It's pretty trivial to design a device that does it's own name resolution.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by m463 » Sat, Oct 03, 2020, 2:23 AM UTC

snarfy wrote: post #29

Samsung really needs to just flush their entire software division. It's all garbage. Their android software is a frustrating joke. Tizen is a hot mess. Every issue I've ever had with a samsung product was with their software, and it's why I've sworn off the brand as a whole.

Unfortunately it's the way companies make money after the sale of the device.

The answer is to make sure they don't sell the device in the first place.