Live data from Hacker News

They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

youtube.com

321–330 of 795 posts

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

#321
YouTube built their fame on the backs of small indy content providers, whilst eventually monetising them and taking the Lion's share of the ad revenue after their acquisition by Google.

These days the real money comes from the corporate nipple, the 5-10 million+ subscriber base - CocaCola, Kanye, Madonna etc with millions, or hundreds of millions of views punting shit. They want us to watch that bland corporate bollocks, rather than sub 1M creators with actual useful content who's only crime is to try to control the attractiveness of their channels by reducing the number of ads or their timing. Especially ads that interrupt things like the flow of an educational video when the presenter says "and at this point we.....[AD ROLL]"...attention is then lost.

Often I see glib comments such as "never rely on another platform for your income", but YT encouraged content providers hoping to grow them, and thus grow revenue for YT themselves. No other platform implicitly "promised" this sort of income.

Now a good number of sub 1M YT'ers have ducked out of the new oppressive ad-roll thing, though not completely shutting down ads, but controlling ads on their own terms to make their videos at least less user hostile due to the injection of ads every 5 mins (this "feature"[0] seems to be the new thing, and back dating this rule to your older content, whether you asked, or not). Many of these folks are pretty YT savvy also know that if they don't run some amount of ads then they're leeching off of YT, and that's a fair enough thing, there's a bit of give and take, I don't expect something for nothing.

A good number of sub 1M YT'ers have now diversified and set up Patreon accounts (YMMV) so at least there's some protection should YT decide you don't fit their profile any more and have to move elsewhere.

Now about moving to Vimeo etc + running a patreon, in the video below, Louis Rossmann says he's even tapped out the "affordable" paid service with Vimeo, and the next step up on Vimeo for him is some kind of "Enterprise (ask for pricing)", so we all know what that means.

Apropos the YT'er who's clearly having a distressing time, if YT can't and won't provide evidence of what they've apparently violated copyright-wise, then that sounds like an organisation that no longer cares about the creators that helped build their platform. And I also wonder why the complainants aren't taking out law suits against Google/YT to recover some or all of that revenue that Google pocketed due to "infringing" material....by we all know why, Google could sustain the defence of more lawsuits than there are atoms in the universe due to their size. The world has become very lopsided.

And I really don't know what the answer is when these large corporate behemoths dominate our lives. Well I do but that's another discussion.

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnekbCdp_AE

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

#322

WOW, initially i thought this was some average joe's channel where bots can run rampage(even this is wrong).. 770,000 subscribers 120 million views 600 videos all gone in 4 days!!!!! keep rocking youtube!!! Google is now a monopoly with Search, Youtube and probably gmail be right?!

This really isn't a surprise and has been happening to lots of fringe creators and lesser known channels with as many subscribers for years.

It was only a matter of time before it happened to other high profile creators.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

#324
post #14

This is just the general trend with things running on Google owned services. I don't think I've ever had to deal with a more customer/user hostile company. I've had an Android app get payments blocked and had to deal with repeated back-and-forth resending of the same documents over and over before they unblocked it. I never did get an answer on why any of that was necessary or why it was impossible to ever speak to a…

It's mostly because:

A.) They don't know why, algorithms did it.

B.) They can't be bothered looking into it, because you aren't spending enough money.

C.) Their systems have now classified you as a scammer and you are now irredemable.

D.) They don't want to leak any details that help scammers learn how to get around automated anti-fraud/abuse systems.

edit to add:

E.) The reason might be something utterly embarrassing about some really dumb internal snafu.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

#326

I work for LBRY inc, and am happy to answer any questions people have.

Search for the word “Jews” in your site.

Neo gasping for air, unplugging the plug from his neck, looking around... Where am I? This can't be the real world, the old world is the real world...

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

#327
post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nothing is stopping hateful people from creating their own video hosting platform and hosting their drivel. Cloudflare and domain registrar bans, payment processor bans and deplatforming, etc. would beg to differ.

You can still do it, you don't need to use cloudflare, you don't need to use that registrar. You don't even need to use the Internet, paint it on a sign and walk around the street with it on a pole. You're not having your free speech impeded by any of this, because refusing to carry someone elses speech isn't censorship, it's just that when you say things that are repulsive to people they won't want to help promote i…

> If you want free speech go to your door, walk outside, start taking. You got your free speech. Everything else is a bonus.

This argument is reductio ad absurdum, except executed against an argument you support. De-platforming online is in opposition to free speech, and the fact you can walk out your front door with a sign does not mitigate the loss of equal power behind your speech that others enjoy by using Internet services. You standing on the street with a sign is in no way equivalent in character or reach to writing what your sign says on Twitter. So here we are, the Internet is a thing, it exists, and so do digital platforms. Free and open access to web platforms is a core philosophical requirement to ensure freedom of speech, and de-platforming people damages that.

It's okay to be opposed to freedom of speech, it's okay to be opposed to the open web, but don't act as if you are not while advocating de-platforming as being an acceptable behavior.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

#328
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The channel is the retail space and the landlord just kicked them out. I think this content producer should get a lawyer.

Landlords and tenants have contracts, and there are rules about what and how these are enforceable.

Then this is a case of a tenant agreeing to onerous terms before setting up shop in a retail space, terms which allow the landlord to kick the tenant out at their whim, with no legal recourse.

I can't believe this needs to be said literally every time one of these types of articles gets posted on HN: if you build your business on top of someone else's platform, and have no contracts in place to protect your interests, your business's existence is completely at the whim of the platform owners.

I wish we lived in a world where the Googles of the internet had sane, transparent, easily-appealable processes for these sorts of things. But we don't, and absent government regulation, we probably aren't going to. People need to take these sorts of risks into account when deciding how to run their businesses, and have contingency plans.

It's interesting to note that in the landlord/tenant analogy, most jurisdictions have laws in place that prevent tenants from agreeing to such unbalanced, predatory contracts, and give tenants rights even in the absence of any agreement at all. Perhaps we do need something like that on the internet, for some things.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

#329
post #4

Alternative Video Sites : https://lbry.tv/ https://www.dailymotion.com/ https://www.bitchute.com/ https://dlive.tv/ https://bittube.tv/

Have you found any web streaming sites that use web rtc? I haven't seen anything since mixer was shutdown, it seems like everything uses RTMP.

Re: They're deleting my channel, but they don't know why? [video]

#330
post #294
post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Free email is fine. Just make sure to own your own domain and MX records. Worst case you switch to somewhere else and keep on mailing.

I use my own domain, but now I'm scared I'll miss a payment instead.

I prepay for three years, but it's not like they'll just suspend your account with no warning, they know how important email is.
Post reply on HN