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SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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Does that matter? Not really. Infrastructure (Internet counts as that) should be available everywhere people live. Who knows, one day you might be in such a situation.

Sure, just expect that if you're going to live that way by choice, pay the costs for it!

What costs? Of course I'll pay for internet/power/water.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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Seems to weigh on the side of not interfering with astronomy, given that we have plenty of alternative options for accessing the internet.

Your comment kind of make me sad... this is such a big issue of perspective. It's something that I often see coming from the US, but any first world country often has that issue, we forget that there's more than us in the world. > In 2019, Internet access became available to 51 percent of the world's population. When households are taken into account, the index increases, reaching 57.8 percent. 42% of the world don't…

The 42% of the world that doesn't currently have internet won't be able to afford Starlink anyway, and unless Elon has discovered a way to make satellites 99% cheaper, Starlink will never be the solution for them.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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Yes I think all French villages have at least super fast ADSL. The US is much larger than France of course, but whatever the reason, it's incredible and really upsetting that they can pollute the earth like this, and for the rest of eternity, just to solve a temporary domestic problem.

> The US is much larger than France of course, but whatever the reason, it's incredible and really upsetting that they can pollute the earth like this, and for the rest of eternity, just to solve a temporary domestic problem. Temporary domestic problem? It's a problem worldwide, the fact that France can get fast ADSL almost everywhere doesn't means it's true worldwide. Wireless has the advantage of not needing a huge…

Ah yes, third world countries. That's what Musk is after, that great philanthropist.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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Anything that requires real-time interaction between a client and a server and other clients, e.g., gaming, stadia/geforce now, videoconferencing, ... 150ms is often "unusable", and for a smooth experience you might need < 30ms depending on the application (e.g. depending on the game you might need < 90ms or <60ms or <30ms).

Videoconferencing does not need imperceptible latency. The other two things on your list are both gaming.

For mobile phone networks, >20ms latency in audio is "unacceptable" from the point-of-view of standards conformance and a client "accepting" the hardware of some vendor.

Up to 100ms is kind of ok-ish barely-sluggish, but over 100ms latency, it becomes extremely annoying to maintain a conversation.

Video conferencing often makes this worse, because it is what people use for meetings, etc. and that involves more than 2 people maintaining a conversation, so latency becomes even more important there.

Otherwise 3-4 people start talking over each other, and none of them notices until they receive what the others are saying. Which is extremely annoying.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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I don't think it is possible or planned to use StarLink directly from a mobile phone. You will need a ground station to communicate that isn't going to fit in a pocket.

True, for now. There was a time when a cell phone was the size of a brick. Maybe we will not see such miniaturization, but I can safely assume that a small backpack size device should be light and last long enough for meaningful high speed internet with StarLink.

> There was a time when a cell phone was the size of a brick.

And that was already advanced. Portable phones used to be so unwieldy, car phones used to be a thing!

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