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Trump says he is considering pardon for Edward Snowden

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Re: Trump says he is considering pardon for Edward Snowden

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Are there any measurable metrics by which he is doing a good job?

He'll be one of two presidents that have reduced the US's carbon emissions between first year and last year in office.

Which is all the more impressive given his indifference to carbon footprints, and hostility towards their reduction.

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President is not responsible for pathetic Healthcare in California and New York. I'm always amazed how every single failure of the Democratic state apparatus is blamed on the President. Same deal with police brutality.

I'd say he had 3 years to get good healthcare in and spent that time golfing instead?

As I said, it's not the President's job or power to fix broken state apparatus. That's the state's job.

Re: Trump says he is considering pardon for Edward Snowden

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> realDonaldTrump: ObamaCare is a disaster and Snowden is a spy who should be executed-but if it and he could reveal Obama's records,I might become a major fan He should be executed, but in the same breathe he may deserve a pardon? Not going to happen. Neither the State Department, the Justice Department, the Defense Department, or the Intelligence Community, is particularly sympathetic to Snowden's cause (for good r…

I couldn't agree more Henry!

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I'm not American so my opinion won't matter. Yet, in my view Snowden actions have been extremely important to set the discussions we are having today: how private do we expect our digital lives to be be it from the state or from megacorps. I doubt that Facebook/CA affair in 2016 elections would have come to light (or have the same impact) had Snowden leaks not had happened. I doubt that Europeans would have stoped be…

A nice example is uBlock Origin, which was (probably) created as a result of the Snowden leaks. June 2013 - Snowden leaks NSA documents September 2013 - the first commit to the Script HQ extension is made (which soon became HTTP Switchboard, which later became uMatrix and uBlock) https://github.com/gorhill/httpswitchboard/commits/master?af...

Do you have any actual proof other than the fact the script was created months after the leaks?

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I agree with all these "wake me up when it happens" poster, because I just generally don't like "nothing happened" news. But seriously, say Trump (or whoever might have been in his place) actually wants to do this as a populistic move: is it hard to do? Does it require any bureaucratic bullshit, arguing with people, forcing stuff, or is it just some paper to sign and it's done? Does it require any effort (and how muc…

If you'd been paying attention you'd know that the President has the absolute, unquestionable power to pardon offenses against the United States, which specifically means: offences under Federal law, but not offenses under State law.

I have absolutely zero idea what that means. So does it require some effort from him to pardon Snowden or not?

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He'll be one of two presidents that have reduced the US's carbon emissions between first year and last year in office.

Which is all the more impressive given his indifference to carbon footprints, and hostility towards their reduction.

Well considering the other president was GWB...

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It's all semantics, he revealed valuable knowledge to the public about how the government was unConstitutionally surveilling them at every opportunity without remorse or apology

It's not semantics. If you killed someone committing their own separate crime, you'd be both a killer and potentially a hero. It is important to make clear he both committed a very serious crime and potentially blew the whistle in act of bravery.

Not if they were breaking into your house and it was self-defense. Then you're technically a killer, having killed someone, but you're more a hero, and not criminally culpable at all.

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Unless you count the transformation of our friendly presence in Iraq to a hostile invasion opposed by the government. But, sure, he hasn't invaded any countries that weren't notionally friendly at the time of the invasion.

> our friendly presence in Iraq Once again I marvel at the flexibility of our English language in describing impossible concepts, such as this one.

Sure, it was only a “friendly” presence because we installed a government there after the last invasion.

It is, nevertheless, the case that Trump changed that into an invasion again.

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