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Re: Mail delays hit Philadelphia residents, short staffed USPS struggles to keep up

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Post by minerjoe » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 1:57 PM UTC

dane-pgp wrote: post #282

minerjoe wrote: post #280

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Who are you quoting there? Putting a few too many words in my mouth. To many of us, the system has lost all cedibility, and voting is signalling just the opposite of that. Nothing about embarrassing anyone. No way to regain people trust at this point. We're too far gone.

Sorry, that wasn't intended to be a quote, I was trying to understand what you thought refusing to vote would achieve. Are you hoping that your non-participation in voting is "signalling" the lack of credibility in the system, and that public awareness of this will contribute to some eventual improved outcome for society, or are you just trying to avoid misleading(?) people into believing the supposed false notion th…

I'm not offering solutions, just observations.

The system is broken and one of the indications of this is all the people that belive that voting can actually make a change for the better, as opposed to just swapping out puppets with no change of puppet-masters.

Re: Mail delays hit Philadelphia residents, short staffed USPS struggles to keep up

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Post by dane-pgp » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 2:18 AM UTC

minerjoe wrote: post #321

dane-pgp wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, that wasn't intended to be a quote, I was trying to understand what you thought refusing to vote would achieve. Are you hoping that your non-participation in voting is "signalling" the lack of credibility in the system, and that public awareness of this will contribute to some eventual improved outcome for society, or are you just trying to avoid misleading(?) people into believing the supposed false notion th…

I'm not offering solutions, just observations. The system is broken and one of the indications of this is all the people that belive that voting can actually make a change for the better, as opposed to just swapping out puppets with no change of puppet-masters.

Do you believe that the people and parties who win elections don't have any effect on the policies of governments? Does this apply to every country, or do some countries avoid being controlled by puppet-masters?

I suppose it's possible that all the policy changes we've seen in governments around the world over the past decades have been due to changing whims of secretive puppet-masters which happen to coincide with the platforms of the candidates who ended up winning the elections, but I don't think that's the simplest explanation for the patterns observed.

Re: Mail delays hit Philadelphia residents, short staffed USPS struggles to keep up

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Post by thereare5lights » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 6:19 AM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #54

thereare5lights wrote: post #53

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It’s not about privatizing the service, it’s about disrupting their ability to process mail in ballots for the election. If they wanted to privatize it, they could have don’t it at any time during the past four years.

> It’s not about privatizing the service, Yes it is. > it’s about disrupting their ability to process mail in ballots for the election. True, but those are complementary not mutually exclsuive motivations.

> Yes it is.

I don't play along with excuses. As I said, if it was really about that, they had numerous opportunities in the past four years.

Re: Mail delays hit Philadelphia residents, short staffed USPS struggles to keep up

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Post by dang » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 10:56 PM UTC

isoskeles wrote: post #319

callmeal wrote: post #220

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>Which Republicans have caused USPS to has a history of financial issues? The ones who in 2006 forced the USPS to pre-fund their retirement obligations. https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/financials/annual-reports/... >>Unlike any other public or private entity, under a 2006 law, the U.S. Postal Service must pre-fund retiree health benefits. We must pay today for benefits that will not be paid out until some future da…

> congress I thought we weren’t allowed to use that word when arguing with you, stupid fuck.

Doing that will get you banned, so please don't.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Mail delays hit Philadelphia residents, short staffed USPS struggles to keep up

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Post by lopmotr » Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 2:44 AM UTC

nxc18 wrote: post #184

lopmotr wrote: post #149

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> create the worst outcomes we’ve seen in decades Do you really believe all that is worse than the Iraq and Afghanistan wars which caused millions of people to be killed? It sounds like you're just a nationalist who thinks their lives don't matter because they're not Americans. If millions of Americans were killed in a decade-long internal war, you would probably rank it worse than the mail being slow, fear for your…

Americans have been destabilizing foreign countries almost continuously since the end of WW2, it’s the baseline state and hasn’t changed significantly under the current administration. If Trump actually delivered and extricated the US from the Middle East you might have a point, but he hasn’t. At best he’s ceded control of important areas to anti democratic regimes (Russia, Turkey) while abandoning US allies: https:/…

So your answer is "yes, I believe it's worse than those wars during those previous presidencies"?

If I come up with numbers of deaths of innocents during these time frames, and Trump's are lower, will you agree that those extra deaths are not as bad as the mail being slow and the other stuff you complained about?