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Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by bane » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 4:47 AM UTC

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Pants with various side pockets have been around for literally decades -- in a wide variety of styles. I even had a pair of nice looking dress slacks in the late 90s with pockets that were almost exactly like this and were for holding phones, wallets, and PDAs. I think I got them at Costco since shock the pants being so fitted made them uncomfortable to hold stuff in the other pockets. It's a nice blog post showing w…

I've never seen dress pants with side pockets like this (that is, not cargo pants) for sale at a major retailer. If they really are so common, what are they called and can you point me to an online store selling them?

I believe the pair I had were from Dockers and were called "Dockers Mobile Pocket". More or less like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDAaGSshhhY

They were a big enough deal that Time Magazine put them in their "Best inventions of 2001" list: http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,288...

In the end, I didn't really care for them and it looks like most people didn't either as they're discontinued. The cargo pocket was more fussy than just putting my stuff in the regular old pockets. I think I remember hitting things with my knees a lot in certain positions.

These days? I guess it depends on what you consider "dress pants", but for pants that don't scream "I'm working construction or shooting a gun during an invasion"...looking around for a bit, Dickies, Red Kap, Scottevest (promoted by Steve Wozniak specifically as a good pair of pants for big phones), Docker D3 line. I've definitely seen them at places like Target, JoS.A.Bank, etc.

Tactical brands like 5.11, Woolrich, Propper, etc. will also sell "discreet" or "concealed carry" cargo pants that look basically like normal slacks.

There's also a ton of plain old fitted and fashion cargo pants around too. I think Armani, Betabrand, etc. has some. They look a bit obnoxious to me I'm afraid.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by xapata » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 4:59 AM UTC

DEADMEAT wrote: post #298

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> most people Have you performed a survey? My intuition, from my own experience, is that most people are completely ignorant of the symbolism of cargo pants and use them solely for the cargo feature. I wear Eddie Bauer "Guide Pro" pants. I recommend them, mostly. I haven't found more stylish cargo pants. https://www.eddiebauer.com/p/12951063/men-s-guide-pro-pants

What you posted aren't cargo pants? Those are hiking pants. Cargo pants have large, external pockets.

Not all hiking pants have large pockets on the mid/low thigh. Seems more like a Venn diagram relationship.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by astura » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 5:07 AM UTC

xapata wrote: post #54

glial wrote: post #50

Y'all are a little touchy about someone criticizing your cargo pants! Consider that perhaps his criticism hits a nerve because there is an element of truth in it - for most people (myself included as a younger person), the symbolism of cargo pants is as important as the function.

> most people Have you performed a survey? My intuition, from my own experience, is that most people are completely ignorant of the symbolism of cargo pants and use them solely for the cargo feature. I wear Eddie Bauer "Guide Pro" pants. I recommend them, mostly. I haven't found more stylish cargo pants. https://www.eddiebauer.com/p/12951063/men-s-guide-pro-pants

Those aren't cargo pants, these (https://www.amazon.com/OCHENTA-Cotton-Military-Pockets-Trous...) are cargo pants.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by thebooktocome » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 5:17 AM UTC

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I don't think you missed the mark. Some people just like military cosplay a lot and get offended when you call out what they're doing.

For the people who want a ton of pockets on their pants, cargo pants are pretty much the only option. Do you earnestly believe that all of these people "just like military cosplay"? Edit: Or maybe I'm wrong, and there are other kinds of pants with many pockets.

"Some X are Y" does not imply "all X is Y"; I held the former while you infer I hold the latter.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by thebooktocome » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 5:19 AM UTC

michaelt wrote: post #92

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I don't think you missed the mark. Some people just like military cosplay a lot and get offended when you call out what they're doing.

I'll agree cargo pants are military cosplay if you'll agree that denim jeans are cowboy cosplay.

Yeah, okay. That was easy.

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Post by pbh101 » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 5:30 AM UTC

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A couple examples: https://www.prana.com/p/stretch-zion-straight/M43189927.html https://www.patagonia.com/product/mens-quandary-hiking-pants...

Hey, that first link has pockets near where this post is talking about. > Angled dual entry cargo pocket

I have one of these. They pocket is pretty good, but it is definitely a two-handed affair To use the zipper and you can feel your phone swing while it is on there. Also definitely bulgy. Helpful in certain contexts like traveling or of course hiking, but doesn’t fulfilL the requirements listed in the post.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by swayvil » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 5:42 AM UTC

Chest is a good place for pockets. Like the breast pocket on a tshirt. Or the multipocket on overalls.

Back pocket is fantastic as long as you don't sit down. And to take that to the next level, a finish carpenter's toolbelt. A back pocket big enough to fit a cantaloupe. With partitions. And you can slide the whole thing around to various places on your butt and hips as the situation requires.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by justnotworthit » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 5:50 AM UTC

Regarding the limitations of the fashion industry...

Learning to sew clothes is like learning to cook after eating fast food all your life and not even knowing it was possible to combine ingredients in any way you wanted.

The possibilities are endless, empowering, overwhelming, and terrifying.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by jacobolus » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 6:01 AM UTC

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> I dunno, "fashion-as-pretend-occupation" feels like a negative connotation, sort of a "stolen valor" for professions the supposed person imagines as more prestigious or moral than what they actually do, adventurer or craftsman vs, say, insurance claims adjuster. I mean, the OG "fashion as pretend occupation" are just pants in general. The purpose of pants is a piece of clothing that lets you ride horses comfortably…

What were the non-horse riders wearing prior to pants? Tunics?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hose_(clothing) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunic

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by ComplexSpidey » Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 6:12 AM UTC

Agreed to lack of innovation and creativeness in this world of mass production. Even women receive a great level of innovation with changes in sizes and some fundamental changes but for men, it's the same 3 pieces of clothes which are important (because that's what is available) - jeans, shirts, tees. Pockets is a good way to start but this definitely needs to expanded to the fundamental core.