Perl 7 is going to be Perl 5.32, mostly

Post by proverbialbunny » Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 9:03 PM UTC

py_or_dy wrote: post #306

I've been a perl zealot since 2005. I didn't even know "python" existed until around 2008 when I found a script file with a ".py" file ending in a fresh ubuntu install. I started going to perl conferences sometime after 2010 when someone on irc informed be about them. I learned so much in those conferences, mainly about the alternatives to cgi and the modern OOP "framework" named "moose". I thought I was in heaven. I…

Post by Ultimatt » Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 9:11 PM UTC

lizmat wrote: post #236

NortySpock wrote: post #86

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So it's the Osborne effect? Where you stop using Perl 5 because you're waiting for Perl 6 (announced in 2000, released never? As Raku? As a rolling release? The history appears confusing in Wikipedia.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect

Perl 6 had its first official release in December 2015. It has since been improved, mainly in performance and in async / event driven capabilities. It got renamed to Raku last year ( https://raku.org using the #rakulang tag on social media). You can check out the Rakudo Weekly News if you want to stay up-to-date: https://rakudoweekly.blog

Post by lizmat » Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 9:16 PM UTC

py_or_dy wrote: post #306

I've been a perl zealot since 2005. I didn't even know "python" existed until around 2008 when I found a script file with a ".py" file ending in a fresh ubuntu install. I started going to perl conferences sometime after 2010 when someone on irc informed be about them. I learned so much in those conferences, mainly about the alternatives to cgi and the modern OOP "framework" named "moose". I thought I was in heaven. I…

Post by dgfitz » Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 9:19 PM UTC

cutler wrote: post #141

orf wrote: post #100

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Lets see the code? Regex has always been a Perl selling point, and you're just benchmarking the Python Regex library (written in C) against Perl's regex library. That's not a fantastic basis for a comparison.

Perl 5: #!/usr/bin/env perl use 5.026; open my $fh, ' ) { chomp; say if /\b\w{15}\b/; } close $fh; Python 3.8 #!/usr/bin/env python import re with open('logs1.txt', 'r') as fh: for line in fh: if re.search(r'\b\w{15}\b', line): print(line, end='') Why isn't it a fair comparison? The startup time is generic and string parsing is a major feature of, say, web development. I didn't say Perl5 numerics match Python's but e…

    [admin@localhost ~]$ time ./test.py
    real 0m0.295s
    user 0m0.158s
    sys 0m0.138s

    [admin@localhost ~]$ time ./test.pl
    real 0m0.164s
    user 0m0.158s
    sys 0m0.006s

    #!/usr/bin/env perl
    use 5.16.3;

    open my $fh, ') {
    chomp;
    if (/\b\w{15}\b/) {}
    }
    close $fh;

    #!/usr/bin/env python

    import re
    regex = re.compile(r'\b\w{15}\b')

    with open('logs1.txt', 'r') as fh:
     for line in fh:
      if regex.search(line):
       continue

Post by Vivtek » Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 9:21 PM UTC

py_or_dy wrote: post #306

I've been a perl zealot since 2005. I didn't even know "python" existed until around 2008 when I found a script file with a ".py" file ending in a fresh ubuntu install. I started going to perl conferences sometime after 2010 when someone on irc informed be about them. I learned so much in those conferences, mainly about the alternatives to cgi and the modern OOP "framework" named "moose". I thought I was in heaven. I…