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Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by meowface »

syshum wrote: post #312
meowface wrote: post #248

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> Everything you describe is happening every single day and has been since before Donald Trump and will continue after him. Yes, it has been and it is and it will, but everything is relative. No matter how bad a bad situation is, it can always get worse. You may not like the US now, but for all we know you could be begging to return to June 2020 when June 2021 comes around. Every little thing like this increases his…

>> that could actually turn some non-Trump voters into Trump voters That ship has already sailed most likely. I voted Libertarian in 2016 as I have for every presidential election that I have voted in. 2020 there is a high probability that I will vote Republican for president for the first time in my life, not for sure yet but it is EXACTLY because of the extreme support for censorship, de-platforming and cancel cult…

The crazy thing to me is how so few people on the left realize and understand this. Many people in this thread just don't seem to get it at all.

I'm a left-leaning person and always will be, but sometimes I get really frustrated at how people I otherwise agree with just never fail to consistently shoot themselves and each other in the foot. They'll read your and my posts and just think it's a bunch of nonsense and once again be flabbergasted when Trump wins again. (I'm not 100% certain he'll win, but I definitely am over 60% confident.)

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by umeshunni »

minimaxir wrote: post #3

Relevant context: recently, former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao called out Reddit for their policies after Reddit did a statement on Black Lives Matter: > I am obligated to call you out: You should have shut down the_donald instead of amplifying it and its hate, racism, and violence. So much of what is happening now lies at your feet. You don't get to say BLM when reddit nurtures and monetizes white supremacy and hate all da…

Obligatory background reading on Ellen Pao: https://www.vanityfair.com/style/scandal/2013/03/buddy-fletc...

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by cmdshiftf4 »

metalchianti wrote: post #157
izzydata wrote: post #142

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I don't like reddit because discussion is always influenced by what needs to be said in order to be more popular. If reddit got rid of usernames and karma then I think it would be ideal.

Like an anonymous imageboard with upvotes?

Why are karma / votes even necessary?

Surely the popularity of content could be purely determined by the actual amount of clicks a given article/topic is given in a certain amount of time?

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by dionian »

nilkn wrote: post #46
minimaxir wrote: post #3

Relevant context: recently, former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao called out Reddit for their policies after Reddit did a statement on Black Lives Matter: > I am obligated to call you out: You should have shut down the_donald instead of amplifying it and its hate, racism, and violence. So much of what is happening now lies at your feet. You don't get to say BLM when reddit nurtures and monetizes white supremacy and hate all da…

This is just scape-goating and finding something recent to blame for a situation that has been going on for 150+ years. Besides, it was effectively shut down, and all that did was lead to the creation of thedonald.win, which by all appearances seems to be thriving and growing rapidly, probably much faster than Reddit itself grew when it was founded. To blame the situation on a forum is to misunderstand that the count…

most people weren't advocating violence in there, most of these claims came from people that wanted to tear it down and provide justification for it. I've seen documented evidence that the same kind of content exists on other subreddits that have not been banned.

censorship does not help you win the debate.

why won't reddit police left-wing content and calls for violence? all I want is transparency.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by cmdshiftf4 »

catalogia wrote: post #230
izzydata wrote: post #142

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I don't like reddit because discussion is always influenced by what needs to be said in order to be more popular. If reddit got rid of usernames and karma then I think it would be ideal.

'Karma seeking behavior' is a problem even on wholly uncontroversial subreddits. Shit like "my girlfriend baked me a cake with [subject of the subreddit on it]" is really uninteresting content after you've seen it for the thousandth time but gets upvoted pretty reliably. Reddit's system simply isn't an effective moderation system if you want to establish a thoughtful community because cheap pandering to the crowd is…

>if you want to establish a thoughtful community

Reddit does not want to establish a thoughtful community. Much like Facebook, Buzzfeed, etc. it relies on virtue/outrage to sell ads.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by lksaar »

sevenf0ur wrote: post #69
lksaar wrote: post #49

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r/mgtow, r/metacanada, r/KotakuInAction, r/TumblrinAction, r/unpopularopinion, r/politicalcompassmemes are candidates. The subreddit about the upcoming AAA game "The Last of Us 2" is pretty vile aswell.

Sounds like you aren't fan of those subreddits but should they be shut down if they are not violating the site rules? The fact is that those subs are heavily moderated. If they weren't they'd be the first to go.

I'm fine with these subreddits, aslong as they're properly moderated and not calling for violence or start brigading other subreddits. When the whole Jessica Price controversy happend there was a lot of new users on r/Guildwars2 that never posted there before or even played the game. I don't agree with them and think they're vile, but aslong as they don't break sitewide rules I'm ok with them.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by lksaar »

kirstenbirgit wrote: post #292
lksaar wrote: post #49

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r/mgtow, r/metacanada, r/KotakuInAction, r/TumblrinAction, r/unpopularopinion, r/politicalcompassmemes are candidates. The subreddit about the upcoming AAA game "The Last of Us 2" is pretty vile aswell.

None of those even scratch the surface of what used to be on reddit back in the days

Thankfully.

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by cmdshiftf4 »

disposekinetics wrote: post #125
kube-system wrote: post #118

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Most of the sites that attempt to be an alternative to reddit are filled with groups that reddit banned.

That's the problem I run into too.

Wait, you're looking for a federated alternative to Reddit, but people exercising free speech on other platforms is a problem for you?

Why not just stay with Reddit?

Re: Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian Resigns from the Board of Reddit

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Post by neonate »

ilikehurdles wrote: post #17
minimaxir wrote: post #3

Relevant context: recently, former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao called out Reddit for their policies after Reddit did a statement on Black Lives Matter: > I am obligated to call you out: You should have shut down the_donald instead of amplifying it and its hate, racism, and violence. So much of what is happening now lies at your feet. You don't get to say BLM when reddit nurtures and monetizes white supremacy and hate all da…

Here's a relevant totally hypothetical "long con" involving Ellen Pao's hiring-and-firing and re-hiring of the original founders: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the... The hypothesis is posed by Yishan Wong, an ex-CEO, with responses from Altman and Ohanian. edit: I made a mistake understanding this story. Please see the correct timeline in geofft's comment.

> The hypothesis is posed by Yishan Wong, an ex-CEO, with responses from Altman and Ohanian.

I found the response from Altman (https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the...) but where is the response from Ohanian?

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Post by jcims »

foldr wrote: post #294
jcims wrote: post #223

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> black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers. Black Americans are also 4 times as likely (per capita) to kill a police officer. https://ucr.fbi.gov/leoka/2018/topic-pages/officers-feloniou... (bottom of page) The reality of course is that the relationship between law enforcement and the black community is dogshit. There are terrible people on both sides that es…

It's hard to reconcile that theory with the facts of most of the cases that make the news. For example, the police officers who killed George Floyd clearly had no reason to fear for their lives. Or what about all the black folks shot in bed in no-knock raids? The first step everyone needs to take to resolve this problem is to stop blaming the victims of police violence.

>It's hard to reconcile that theory with the facts of most of the cases that make the news.

Why would you expect a uniform sampling of cases from the news? Police killed 1000 people last year. Almost 3 per day. How many of those did you hear about? Why would you hear about some vs. the others?

> The first step everyone needs to take to resolve this problem is to stop blaming the victims of police violence.

Who are you addressing this to? Me? I didn't blame George Floyd in the least. That was straight up murder.

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