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Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28

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This is verifiably false.

Don't just claim it. Supply the verification.

The onus to supply verification is on the person making the claim.

Hitchen's razor: What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

Re: Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28

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> I hope, that both sides, the protesters and police force will find a way, to exit that spiral of violence. The two sides are massively unequal in terms of power, the onus is on the police to stop the violence.

The onus is on both. One may be able to do it better, and more conveniently, but everyone's responsible for doing their bit in ceasing and stopping violence.

Please explain what the police is doing to curtail police violence.

Re: Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28

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> I am honestly rejoicing at the sight of Americans discovering they are not really as free or as better than the rest of the world as they think they are Americans are still freer than the rest of the world in general. None of this changes that. "As better" - still hasn't changed either if by better you mean better off. If you're born in the US, in general, you're in a position to be better off than most of the worl…

That’s exactly what I’m appealing to. Khashoggi got murdered brazenly, and nothing could be done about it. Hong Kong protestors get detained indefinitely, and nothing can be done about it. The American imperative is that we must do something about it. Our failure is that we have a threshold that needs to be met, but we do have a threshold. In most of the world there is no threshold. You can do anything, indefinitely,…

I think you underestimate how far down the road towards totalitarianism you have travelled in the last 20-30 years. There's nothing I can see that suggests you have a threshold which will spur change. Your voting systems are being more actively rigged than ever before to ensure the people most angry about police brutality will be most likely to be disenfranchised in November.

Re: Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28

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To me, it was pretty clear that the police in Santa Monica and Long Beach allowed the looting to occur while treating the protesters like criminals from the outset. This isn't to say that other local precincts weren't significantly better in their treatment of protesters, but there's clear evidence that many police departments are either corrupt or completely inept in addressing violent crime. This has been a long ti…

The police seem to clearly be allowing looting on purpose. SoHo was looted two days in a row . Where were the NYPD? There are 10's of thousands of uniformed officers Maybe you can say the first day they somehow missed it, but two days in a row? Come on. I refuse to believe that they didn't see this coming - they brag about how they're "gathering intel" on terrorist groups, but they couldn't check twitter to see #soho…

I just love how everyone hates cops and talks about how every single one of them is worthless yet they expects them to save their store from being looted.

You decided you were better off without me, fine, save your own store.

Re: Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28

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Disclaimer: I am a bleeding heart liberal and this may filter my observations. I have been to a few rallies/vigils/marches lately and all incidences of violence that I have witnessed either in person or through media has been instigated by the police. As far as I know,every documented case where a formerly peaceful crowd turns into chaos has been started with police shooting pepperspray, teargas, or whatever into the…

Were you able to observe whether the police instigated the looting too?

The looters take advantage of the chaos apparently willingly and knowingly created by the police.

I'd say holding the protestors responsible for it is a bit missleading.

Re: Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28

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> Sure, clearly the cops handled this wrong, but what got Floyd there in the 1st place? What? Seriously, what? Are you suggesting that the police should be free to pick and choose who they kill based on whether they are a "model citizen/saint" or not? "Do not kill a person unnecessarily" should be a universal rule the police work to. It doesn't matter one bit who they are interacting with.

Do you have a reading comprehension disability? I am pretty sure I did not say they should have killed him.

I can’t respond to your earlier comment: but people aren’t saying he’s a saint; they’re making him a martyr of sorts. He died from police brutality, and instead of trying to fix that (over the past few decades), the police and President have waged civil war.

Re: Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28

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I do not agree at least not where I am. I am in Reno Nevada and I witnessed a kid with a skateboard break out the back window of a police car that had 2 police inside the car at the time and the police did nothing, the kid (i say kid but early 20's) walked away after without being arrested, pepper-sprayed, or anything. What I witnessed was a peaceful protest that started mid-morning and did not turn violent until 6 pm when some non-local possibly Antifa idiots ran up to city hall with a baseball bat and started breaking out windows of the building, then a follow the herd mentality took over and people cheering them on and before you know it its a full-blown riot. They even spray painted up the police station and the police did nothing. It was not until the destruction of property at city hall that the heavy police presence showed up but even then most of them were just standing around city hall. They fired some tear gas to push people back and out of the downtown area. I was disappointed at our police and their lackadaisical approach to handling the unrest. So, its neither the protesters nor the police inciting the violence it is these non-local wannabe thugs like Antifa starting it. Someone needs to investigate George Soros for having these people on his payroll to go out and do this very thing.

Re: Police attacks against journalists across the U.S. since May 28

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It’s the same here in Seattle as it was while I was in Berkeley during Ferguson. People protest peacefully, and police shoot tear gas into the crowd and attack whomever they can get their hands on. I’ll admit, the outright brutality I saw in-person in Oakland was worse than what I’ve seen here in the recent days. In Oakland, the police would purposely corral protestors into groups and literally beat the shit out of t…

"numerous videos show police breaking windows themselves" I don't believe you. The umbrella guy breaking the AutoZone window with a hammer has no connection to any police department. Someone made that up on social media and people shared it because that's what people do. The only video I know of showing officers breaking a window is out of Seattle. It shows officers responding to a burglary in progress at a Target st…

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