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Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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I'm not aware of Vivaldi having functionality similar to Firefox containers. Please elaborate.

Vivaldi Profiles. Only difference is that in Vivaldi each Profile use separate window (as far as I know).

I'm pretty sure it's the same thing as Chrome's profiles functionality. I tried it out for a week, but it's not quite as robust as Firefox container tabs.

When I need Chromium, I use Brave.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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This feels like tabs are becoming bookmarks

Tabs are bookmarks that can keep their state. Normal bookmarks have only the URL, and any parameters that go in the URL, but discard the rest, like your position on the page, your navigation history, or what you are doing in a PWA. Tabs don't discard data, bookmarks do. Sometimes you just want the landing page and a bookmark is fine, other times you want the extra data and a long-lived tab is needed.

Many tabs refresh after no activity

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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As much as I like this, why is it so hard to have tab management that just works? I have six pinned tabs that I always want up. Important things like Gmail, Calendar Drive. Stuff that should never change. I don't want to have to remember to open links in a new tab from pinned tabs. It should know that pinned means pinned. Perhaps if they enabled group persistence? I'm hoping this rather obvious feature is in there. M…

One of the great features in Chrome is that you can open your recently closed tabs with CTRL+SHIFT+T. This will bring back an entire window full of tabs and even works between reboots. I usually have a dozen tabs open and when I reboot, I simply open up Chrome again, CTRL+SHIFT+T, and I am right back where I was.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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I'm always constantly over 100. It mostly spirals out of control when deep in research and going down the rabbit hole.

I'm curious, wouldn't you read the info and process it in your mind, and then close the tab when done? If it's something you will need to reference again later, then bookmark it? Like you know... a book. Put it back on the shelf or have hundreds of books open on the floor. I do not understand tab people. I do have a meticulously organized bookmark system though. Do tab people use bookmarks much at all?

I haven't used bookmarks since the De.licio.us days. Most of the time if I do close a tab and need the information again, I know what to search to find it again. The searching in bookmarks is not as good as Google search. And I've been down the route of trying to meticulously organize bookmarks, and I find that in the midst of opening a bunch of tabs while "researching" something, that doesn't happen and so things are just a mess. Or when looking for them the original categorization doesn't match so I don't find it when looking at folders (same reason I prefer labels like in GMail over email folders).

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Top right seems to always have space. You can also drag any window from any side by dragging perpendicular to the resize direction. It’s still small but I never heard anyone complain about precision there. And then there’s window manager if you’re a power user. I also think you can move any window with three finger via system settings.

> Top right seems to always have space. Top right isn't always visible when trying to click a window to bring it forward > You can also drag any window from any side by dragging perpendicular to the resize direction. It’s still small but I never heard anyone complain about precision there. Interesting, I hadn't seen that before. It's still a small space and annoying to grab, but it's better than now knowing about it.…

> Not sure what you mean here.

I mean automatic tools to move windows. I use BetterTouchTool with a lot of custom gestures to handle my windows. With this I mean for example swiping with 5 fingers to the left moves and resizes the window to take up 25% of the screen on the left side. And so on so forth. I rarely drag my windows around anymore, it's second nature at this point.

> I use a mouse and full keyboard. I've never been able to interact with the mac well without them.

With BetterTouchTool (I just tried this) I can set e.g. fn+mouse click to toggle a move state on a window. So the window you tapped (anywhere within) will now follow your mouse until you click again.

It can also simply teleport your window to wherever you fn+clicked.

There are unlimited options within this app by itself.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Anyone who keeps many tabs open and is a keyboard centric user, how can they use chrome? In Firefox, when I press ctrl-tab, it takes me to the most recent tab. In Chrome, this takes me to the next tab. I'd expect chrome to have an option to change this, but no, you need add-ons, and those just offer other hotkeys. Nowadays, I keep my tabs open in, if I need another identity (like my work-related account in a cloud pr…

> In Firefox, when I press ctrl-tab, it takes me to the most recent tab. In Chrome, this takes me to the next tab. Coincidentally, this drives me nuts with Firefox and is always the first option I disable. If I open 10 tabs from a single page, I want to be able to cycle through them with the keyboard easily. Having CTRL+Tab go to the most recent tab completely ruins that.

Yup, I disable "tab = most recent" both in IDEs and Firefox right off the bat. I don't understand it at all.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Totally agree. TST was the primary reason I stuck with FF for so many years, even when Chrome was faster and more broadly compatible. It seems silly that they would have “invented” a tool for tab hoarders that is obviously less useful than a thing that already exists and is currently not available on Chrome.

As a tab Horder I also use FF, though it gets very slow with 100 tabs after some time on OS X (iMacPro).

Really? I have, right now, 290 opened tabs dangling from the hacker news homepage and about 20 other "root" tabs with more trees.

All in all, ~450 opened tabs in 6 different containers.

Firefox is using ~8% of CPU and 670MB of RAM. Macbook Pro retina mid 2012.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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It is even worse in Firefox, half my history is just outright missing. It is like it only saves the final page each tab was open to instead of anything I browsed using that tab in the interim. Not to mention the UI for Firefox's history is pure garbage of the worst kind. The fact I have to go three menus deep just to open the history screen is bad, the fact that it isn't a screen and some kind of dumb pop-out /thing/…

> The fact I have to go three menus deep just to open the history screen is bad History is never more than 2 clicks away: - Open Library button, click History - Open History menu (macOS) However, yes, core browser functions seem to be stuck to what they looked like in the year 2000 for most browsers. Only Safari basically tries to reinvent its UI every couple of years.

On mine (Windows) it is:

Menu -> Library -> History -> View History

Which is four clicks by my count. In either case it is too many and the UI you get at the end is like a 1990s reject.

They should just make it a full tab like Chrome has.

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