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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by wishinghand »

mceachen wrote: post #271
akvadrako wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn't about the screen size - it's about the external dimensions. This is almost as large as the Pixel 4A, Samsung S10e or iPhone 11. You are only saving a couple grams and a few mm. Hopefully the Sony Xperia 5 II comes out soon - it should be smaller than this.

> almost as large as ... iPhone 11 See https://www.apple.com/iphone-se/specs/ for a comparison. It's at least a quarter smaller in both dimensions.

That image they include is disingenuous since the left sides of the two phones aren't aligned.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by goatlover »

koheripbal wrote: post #270
andrepd wrote: post #214

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

...as someone who absolutely loves big phones - I am on the other side of this argument. I read and watch shows on my phone constantly, and screen size is a major factor for me. I specifically buy clothes with larger pockets to accommodate. I agree that choice would be better - but I imagine that economies of scale sometimes means having only one size for everyone if you want to keep them cheaper than the competition…

I never understood watching stuff on a phone given tablets, laptops, PCs, smartTVs and even VR headsets. But then again, I take my laptop everywhere and use it for everything when there's a choice between the two.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by sfotm »

threepio wrote: post #133
threepio wrote: post #33

"Popular design"? On the contrary. As an iPhone SE owner, this is exactly the form factor that fans of the iPhone 4/5 series (like me) rejected as being too large.

The most perplexing part has always been the positioning of the SE as the low-price iPhone. As an SE fan, I would happily, HAPPILY pay $1000 every two years to keep getting upgraded internals in the current form factor. Yes Apple, I'm sure it's harder to fit those parts in a smaller case. That's why you should charge me more! It's not a matter of Ludditry. That form factor is ergonomically ideal for a certain kind of…

Because this is Apple's bargain device, they probably don't want to keep tooling machinery around that's specifically geared toward creating that older shape and size of iPhone.

I'd assume the iPhone SE is always going to follow the look and feel of the higher-end iPhones, maybe lagging behind a generation or so.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by varjag »

WoahNoun wrote: post #174
sn_master wrote: post #112

I use Pixel 4, and I absolutely hate not having a fingerprint sensor. Cons: * At night it doesn't work, because I am laying on the bed and half my face is covered. * It doesn't work when I am not wearing my glasses. Annoying when I have just woken up or going to bed and want to check a quick notification. * Sometimes it unlocks by itself even if I don't want it to. For the headphone jack, I got a cheap USB-C ones and…

My current biggest problem with FaceID is that it doesn't work when I'm wearing a mask. Which is pretty much anytime I'm outside right now. Never had an issue with glasses though.

OTOH fingerprint sensors don't work with latex gloves. Hard to come up with PPE-friendly security!

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by williamdclt »

throwaway287391 wrote: post #276
hajile wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My current phone has no headphone jack and it's been an absolute pain the whole time. Adapters are hit-or-miss and generally suck. Even high-end devices (mine was over $800) often have hissing due to the analog signal running fractions of a millimeter from a bunch of digital signals. Adding insult to injury, music objectively sucks with bluetooth. A good DAC takes space and power. Multiple drivers take space and powe…

Comments like this always make me really glad that I've never tried "good" audio equipment. I think music sounds great with my Sony XM3s and even my AirPods, and I don't have to travel with a DAC to experience it. shrug

On one hand you avoid frustration, on the other hand you miss out on greater enjoyment.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by coder543 »

DylanBohlender wrote: post #298

Is there any confirmation that this phone will/won't support 5G? It seems to be omitted in the marketing materials. While multiple years of OS support would be nice in this form factor, not being able to use 5G data would be a big negative in terms of this being "futureproofed".

The new iPhone SE definitely doesn’t have any 5G.

5G is extremely overrated. LTE is easily capable of 200Mbps. I’ve personally seen it... but very few people have. Have you? (relevant link that demonstrates over 500Mbps on LTE: https://www.iphoneincanada.ca/news/iphone-11-pro-max-lte-spe...)

Until our towers have enough network backhaul to consistently max out LTE to a phone when that phone needs it, 5G has exactly one benefit: less signal congestion at major sporting / concert events with high densities of people. The carriers would say “marketing” is another benefit, probably.

Just having 5G won’t make the internet any faster in most situations, since the towers are backhaul limited... they aren’t limited by LTE.

Even 200Mbps is more than enough for 99% of people's phones for the next 5 years, especially since that's like double the average home internet speed in the US. The 537Mbps seen in the article I linked to is just excessive by today's standards... and that just requires current LTE.

“5G” also refers to two completely different technologies, which most people probably don’t realize. One of them doesn’t even seem very different from LTE, and the other requires towers for almost every single city block.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by shorts_theory »

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

I would probably upgrade just for the battery. iOS 13 is very smooth on my SE but the battery is just nuked without battery saver on all the time.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by Kiro »

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

> Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable

While you think it's unacceptable the rest of the world has moved on a long time ago.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by lancesells »

asaddhamani wrote: post #188
WoahNoun wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My current biggest problem with FaceID is that it doesn't work when I'm wearing a mask. Which is pretty much anytime I'm outside right now. Never had an issue with glasses though.

Tell me about it. I hope Apple can address this, it's so frustrating to type in the password every single time, and some apps just refuse to work without biometric authentication (payments apps)

I haven't confirmed this but I heard if you do alternate views with half a mask on both sides you might be able to unlock with a mask. I don't own a faceID phone so don't know if this is true.
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