So what, people want to see pretty people, what's the problem with it? When I go to a lecture I want to see a smart person, when i watch sport i want to see athletic people and when i look at stupid tiktok videos i want them to be at least pretty because usually there is not much else there.
TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor
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#322How is this different from nightclubs having a high bar to entry? I am not saying this is an ethical thing to do, I am saying these apps are no different from nightclubs and they gotta do what they gotta do to survive. And no matter what you may say, humans prefer non ugly people over ugly people. I am sorry but this is simply how humans work. If you disagree, then you are a hypocrite. So should high end nightclubs b…
Really good analogy. I guess the answer is that it isn't ok that the nightclubs do it either, but they get overlooked because no-one has to be there. TikTok, being so widespread, gets closer scrutiny. A lot of things are like that. One example that comes to mind is that the New York Times , which frequently runs articles criticising tech companies for invading their users' privacy, loads a million trackers every time…
> the answer is that it isn't ok that the nightclubs do it either
Tell me how it could work any other way? nightclubs are "popular" because of this selection, if anybody could come and go, what would make a place popular?
I don't go to nightclubs and I don't enjoy it, but I can understand why it works that way, it may be unfair but if you break that, the whole concept falls apart. It is valid with any type of community, they simply value different things.
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#323There’s that really really old social media platform called television that does something pretty similar.
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#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
But how can you objectively establish that somebody is unattractive? Assuming the world moves into this hypothetical society you're describing nobody wants to be part of that new protected class. If you're by some semantic classified as unattractive, you will automatically feel segregated and marginalized. This is not like sexual orientation where non-heterosexual people actually have a desire to express their sexual…
Reminds me of Doug Stanhopes brilliant bit about being ugly.
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#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Instagram does the same thing No, it does not. There is a big difference between: - showing you unconnected content you are likely to engage with - having rules enforced with the help of human reviewers to prevent any user from getting recommendations with people deemed ugly/poor/etc.
I mean, if it’s the same result does it matter if it’s human or artificial moderation?
Legally, intent defines the difference between manslaughter and murder. One is a plausibly an accident and the other is unjust.
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#326Geez, I thought this might be an overblown piece about algorithms unwittingly optimizing for the wrong things, but the headline is pretty accurate. Discussing how moderators choose content to recommend to people in the “For You” section (not a user — I assume this is something highlighted to users): > Under this policy, TikTok moderators were explicitly told to suppress uploads from users with flaws both congenital a…
Just as a counterpoint - I (a middle aged man) joined TikTok to keep an eye on my teenage daughter's posts. I didn't know there was a "For You" channel. I thought it worked more like instagram and only followers could see what you post.
Anyway, I uploaded the most recent video on my phone as a test which was me getting my nostrils waxed in a Turkish Barbers. It hit the For You page and it's now got 360k views :-(
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#327If you don’t like it don’t use TikTok. It’s as simple as that.
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#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or news stations, which hire presenters based on attractiveness. Or fashion products, which hire models based on attractiveness. Or the music industry, which puts forward pop stars that are attractive while keeping ones that don't have sex appeal off the air. Or the film industry. Or the literally any other industry that tries to survive via popularity and getting eye time. Attractiveness sells. What TikTok is doing…
It's not the same though, is it? On Instagram and TikTok and the likes, you don't need "ugly filters", because there's instant feedback: clicks, impressions, likes, hearts, comments, whatever. In the film industry, for example, you won't know whether the product will be a success or not until after the fact that you spent a ton of money on it.
Suppressed is wrong. The for you page is more like free promotion and free promotion is not a human right. You can still promote your content manually even if it doesn't get on the for you page.
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I'm suprised, I mean normally people themselves are already quite capable of following and watching only the most gifted, beautiful and talented individuals, or at least the ones that appear so. All to feel a little bit worse about themselves every day. I don't understand why you would need to actively encourage this, I don't believe Twitter would ever have people with “Abnormal body shape,” “ugly facial looks,” dwar…
Twitter is great for people who don't look conventionally attractive, because there's no expectation of having real profile photos. On Twitter you really can go viral just by being funny. Instagram on the other hand is so beauty centric that it's created its own makeup aesthetic.
What if I'm beutiful, funny and intelligent? where to go? I'm so confused.
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Twitter is great for people who don't look conventionally attractive, because there's no expectation of having real profile photos. On Twitter you really can go viral just by being funny. Instagram on the other hand is so beauty centric that it's created its own makeup aesthetic.
What if I'm beutiful, funny and intelligent? where to go? I'm so confused.
To my house, I will paint you like a French girl.